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Realistic chance of training for an overseas MBBS graduate in the UK

Author: MunishLapsia, Posted on Thursday, January 26 @ 20:28:05 IST by RxPG  

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There's a lot going on about the job situation in the UK.
Many discourage coming to the UK while other's say there's still some chance of getting a job.

Here's some more food for thought!

Essentially UK is short of trained doctors rather than doctors that need training. They need Surgeons and Physicians to manage the wards while they play golf.... not fresh graduates who need to be taught how to close the abdomen and to interpret ABG's.
There's a lot of concern among the Royal colleges that they do not have enough academicians to train future doctors.

Training posts were proportionate to the number of Medical students in the UK .... now the no of medical students is increasing but they are yet to increase the NTN's significantly.
NTN's ? National Training Number... now this what is equivalent to an MS/MD in India.
Rest all are house jobs or service posts.

Currently the overseas SHO's who are doing basic surgical/medical rotations and completing their membership exams are fearing that they may never get a NTN.
NTN's were always very competetive and most overseas doctors never got in.
Never got in?
Yes most FRCS/MRCP you see in India are usually the ones who didn't get a NTN and not the ones who left the white land to serve their own country.
What happened to those who didn't get NTN's and stayed back?
Most imporatnt they got their Permanent Residency status!
They wen't into service posts.... namely middle grades, staff grades and associate specialists. At the age of 50 some still insert IV canulas and prescribe analgesia at 2 am in the night.... but they do make upto 5000 per month!

Who will then get into National Training then?
After Aug 2007 those that complete Foundation programme would be able to get into Registrar level training.....
What will happen to current SHO's... those that don't make it to Registrar level/NTN's by Aug 2007?
They would be pushed to take up service posts / Trust posts.

Why doesn't then everybody do a foundation programme?
Most overseas doctors are not eligible for FY1 as they have already done internship. And many out of those have experience or PG qualifications which makes them over qualified for Foundation / FY2.

So my view is that anyone coming to the UK from now on and not able to get into foundation programme .... would not be able to complete training in the UK.



Those that have experience, PG qualifications and membership exams.... would have lot of opportunities to take sevice posts.... namely middle grade and staff grade posts.
The hospital I am working in has an acute shortage of ENT , A&E, Psych, O&G, Paeds, orthopaedics staff grades and they have paid 50 an hour sometimes to get locums!

I prefer to avoid writing on issues of passing PLAB , getting clinical attachments and getting locums and the first job.
They have been discussed in detail already and
somehow by the 4th attempt people will pass PLAB part 2... after 500 applications for attachments and meeting 50 consultants personally they will get atleast one attachment.... after doing 6 attachments they will get a locum... after doing locums for a year or so thay will get a job.... and so on and so forth....
It's only the question of how much determined you are how much hard work you are ready to put in?

But I ask myself.... what for?
Money.... anyone can make money... infact there's more money in business than is in Medicine and you don't need to study/work so hard.
Training... is there any realistic chance of training in UK for an MBBS graduate????

The question is still open ... what for?

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