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I can understand.. these are tough choices.. Good luck and god bless..
|hey ashb ,it was nice goin through this forum, bcoz once i was in this dilemma,wasted one yr for USMLE eventhough i did get a decent score of 92 in step1, my aim was surgery and even wit scores of 99 you can never be assured of a seat, but thats not the case with internal medicine. so i changed track this yr for AIPGE and i have no regrets about it,during one yr i suddenly realised that the us is not everything and that serving our country is much more gratifying than goin to some foreign country and being a second class citizen,anyways these are solely my views and i have nothing against docs going to the us.|
|hi there,i have taken my steps and got scores in mid 80's in both steps,goin for cs now,,i dont have any usce,research..,observership,,,,and even the scores are not in 90's..this is depressing me alot..
and i am thinkin that i shud quit USMLE as it is fixed in my mind that with such a resume its almost to impossible to get a residency there,and i would waste another year here.so atleat i cud get 6mnths to prepare for AIPGE,,its realy a tough situation for me,dunno how to proceed.....
|"There's still time, try hard to get some observerships, complete Step3 while in US for CS. Apply on Sept 1st itself, not even one day late. Try to get a US LOR if you can via observership/externship. Prepare good SOP and prepare hard for the interviews, your presentation, langauge, confidence etc..
Don't lose hope but you'll have to work hard to get maximum things right. My 2 cents.. ""
I just had to write a line here ! You will do well to remember and live these lines written by AshB--they are more true than you can imagne.
Quite a few Residency programs look not only for "the score", but for presentation as well. Get some (ANY) work experience in US. Do a shadowing in a Residnecy program. Get involved in a 6 week to 12 week project. Get conversant with bench research. Learn a little about statastics, and a little about genetics, and so on. 80's isnt the end of the world, think of it like a "Marathon"--first mile done, now get the next one over with.
Do your own due dilligence--take any advise (including this one !) with a ton of salt.
|thanks alot for ur previous information about USMLE all procedure ! sir i would like 2 know some possible scopes after mbbs( bachelore) degree /md in usa ! what is the chances of getting into reserch felloship program in us after pg frome abroad (means country other than usa) if some one having a green card status but without taking USMLE
or what kind of possible oppartunity is available their without clearing USMLE ! but having md degree in somme highly demeandable fields such as( RADIOLOGY, SURGERY , NUROSURGERY, ETC) sir i ld also like 2 know that can some one still work in medical setup in usa once he /she achived some high academic credentials such as( mbbs/md/mph) and what are chances of getting into reserch program if he enjoy nationality status /green card status
how worh these mph degrees are after md in some other clinical branches frome abroad (other than usa ) and what possible job it could provide in health care syestem of usa
once again much more thanks for giving ur precious time ( only to whome those who replys)
|hi! i've been facing the same dilemma since 6 mths....i want obg badly!and going by the law suit rates in the US i'm damn confused. so I'm preparing for AIPGE. but would want to get to USA.how about fellowships abroad?dont want to compromise on the branch before giving it a try.|
|hi! i've been facing the same dilemma since 6 mths....i want obg badly!and going by the law suit rates in the US i'm damn confused. so I'm preparing for <a href="http://www.rxpgonline.com/forum2.html">AIPGE</a>
.but would want to get to USA.how about fellowships abroad?dont want to compromise on the branch before giving it a try.
|am preparin for aipg this year but still i m very confused and my mind keeps on swinging between USMLE and AIPGE ...so i want to get some guidance from u...please help me out...coz in this present condition i m not able to prepare well for AIPGE also...both have their pros n cons...both are risky...like playin a big gamble wid ur life n career...so i m afraid at d same time...
i have a few queries for USMLE and i m listing them below....
.1st of all the chances of gettin residency over there is tough these days...i have heard a few cases in which even after scoring above 95 in both steps they are rejected and have to come empty handed...is it true???...scores are imp for IMGS but at the same time they are also interested in research work,some clinical experience n LOR....so do v get any of these after goin ther durin step 2 CS...coz they are all plus points...for gettin a residency seat ther...i have a contact there living there from last 15 years so i can expect to get LOR somehow coz that uncle is a big architect over there and has many contacts wid docs over ther...
2.the branches that v r offered...i am not interested in surgical field...so i like internal medicine,radiology,pediatrics and Psychiatry also...i guess these r the branches that they offer...of any other then please let me know...ya whats ther in family medicine???...i have no idea...and ofcourse the working n living conditions are far better than in indian hosps...technology advanced...so u can get job satisfaction maximum there...i also wanted to know that for residency which hosp they offer i mean do they offer only peripheral n rural hosp to IMGS???
3.VISA problems...very serious issue i think...do we get multiple entry visa after step1 n 2 easily...r ther any hurdles in that too???...and how to get H1B over ther...do we have to give step3 for that...or marrying a greencard holder works???...
4.i also wud like to know what are they payscales over ther in residency n also after post PG while doin job...in india its only 6k,8k and 10k in residency...also after PG for 5 yrs befoer u get a private setup u get only upto 25k to the max....
5.expenditure in preparing for USMLE ...including fees for different steps,travels fares,accomodation(which i have there at my very good friends home),application for residency fees,interviews fees....and many others which i mite not be knowing....so on an average how much is required for USMLE ???
i guess this would only be like an investment coz once we get a seat over there than its very easy to cover all expenditure in 1-2 yrs...
6.time factor---on an average how much time goes for preparin all steps then for interviews and matching...2 yrs is what i know...
7.MPH- another confusion....many people are opting for MPH n then mle....they say that if u do mph then atleast u wont come back bare handed if u dnt get a residency...but mph itself isnt that important to get a residency...is it imp???....we only waste 2 yrs and few more money in that...that is my view....but if its not so...then please guide me about mph also...how much expenditure and time goes in mph on an average...TIME and MONEY are imp factors but if one gets residency ther then he wud b earning far more than his counterpart in india...
|thanx a lot 4 replyin...u r doin a great job here...u donno u have made urself so many well wishers...that whatever u desire ull achieve in life...all d best to u...
i also wanted to ask is that if i apply to directly then i will apply for visas for comin to give step2CS so do they give visas easily on the basis of step1 n step2CK...if they give then for how much duration??? coz one of my seniors told that they may give only for 6 months than its difficult to give step2 CS then to do some externship/observership n to give interviews...i heard that they give for 10yrs multientry visa...so please give some information about this...
n ya i belong to both the categories of people who want to give as u mentioned...i have a lot of passion to come ther n also some1 is waiting for me there...only thing i m afraid about is after wasting so much money n time if i dnt get residency then....tats what compels me to think so much..n i get confused all the time...
|hi. i am from and in india. i have done my mbbs here and am studying for aipg.
is getting the visa the only problem for getting a residency after USMLE?
i mean are seats given as per quota for foreign graduates or is it a open competion?
i was under the impression that only 3% of seats are reserved for foreign graduates n that to foreigners who have done under grad in the us are preffered
also i am interested in gen surg
could anybody pls guide
|Quite an informative thread.thnx 4 d same.
keep up d gud work!
til recntly i ws al 4 <a href="http://www.rxpgonline.com/forum2.html">AIPGE</a>
. nw i hv bn toyin wid dis US ka idea....quite a fw of ma seniors r in d states...sum via d <a href="http://www.rxpgonline.com/forum24.html">GRE</a>
route & fw directly....
Nywz,thnx once again 4 d thread...ll hlp me in decidng.
d only factor tat bothers me is d patience & time reqd.....bt on a 2nd thought-most f us ll nywy hv 2 repeat ---d verdict...NO SHORTCUTS 2 patience & wastin time...! + put a red cherry(irony intended)...2 yrs of internship.....exactly as v say in Marathi- Dushkalat Terrava Mahina!
Keep up d gudwork....!
|.... aipgee is quite competetive,...|
Just my 2 cents.. Competitiveness of a US residency is out of bounds. You'll know with time.
i think it was you who first said that USMLE is easier than aipgee. u said this at the start of this thread
|hi ashb and others. i hv a query. can u tell me which r the months/ dates during which less candidates appear for <a href="http://www.rxpgonline.com/forum5.html">USMLE</a>
. well if the no of appearing candidates r less then we'll get hi percentile. so i want to know during which months the no of candidates appearing will be less.
|can u tell me does marrying an american really help in getting into residency coz im saving their headache of providing me h1b or j1 visa.|
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