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ANSHUL_DR
Aim GRE

thnx ashB for ur valuable advice.it will be difficult for me to squeeze out sme weeks because even if i manage to make it a bit earlier i cnt give my step2ck befre july then i need 1month preparation for cs and then for visa also i need time to prepare atleast 1month wil go in that so in that case also i wil not be able to give cs befre september then when wil i make my appl,this prb is there.then what should i do.

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AshB


arundhutik wrote:
can u please let me know if after one gets the id no. from ecfmg any other verification requires to be done or after we apply for the exam they verify our degrees?and how many mnths prior to exam should one apply and are exams held all round the year?thanks a lot. this thread is really very helpful.

Ur degrees need to be verified from ur parent college after u apply.

3-4 months prior to the slot is good time to start the application process.

Yes exams r held throughout d year except first 15 days of Jan and local holidays.

P.S. Please go thru hot topics of this forum and ecfmg.org for these preliminary queries and post additional queries in d forums.


AshB


ANSHUL_DR wrote:
thnx ashB for ur valuable advice.it will be difficult for me to squeeze out sme weeks because even if i manage to make it a bit earlier i cnt give my step2ck befre july then i need 1month preparation for cs and then for visa also i need time to prepare atleast 1month wil go in that so in that case also i wil not be able to give cs befre september then when wil i make my appl,this prb is there.then what should i do.

oK good luck.. icon_smile.gif


sowmyahp
Aim USMLE Step 1

hi there... can u lz tel me about the exam dates..


pepene


Hi guys...in what countries will I be licensed to work in if I pass the USMLE?can anyone advise..many thanx


AshB


pepene wrote:
Hi guys...in what countries will I be licensed to work in if I pass the <a href="http://www.rxpgonline.com/forum5.html">USMLE</a>
?can anyone advise..many thanx

New Zealand is one country that recognizes USMLE steps and offers some waivers in its NZREX exam if u have cleared some of MLE steps.

I think even australia recognizes it to some extent but i'm not sure about it.


pepene


thanx for ur prompt reply..as always AshB.. icon_smile.gif
any idea if Canada falls in this list too??


AshB


pepene wrote:
thanx for ur prompt reply..as always AshB.. icon_smile.gif
any idea if <a href="http://www.rxpgonline.com/forum46.html">Canada</a>
falls in this list too??

I don't think so.. But will try to find out for sure.

This time it was even faster.. icon_wink.gif


pepene


U r indeed the most reliable source of info here and pretty swift too....thanxx.. icon_smile.gif


doc_kalsi
Aim USMLE Step 1

thanks a lot ashB
IT WAS A GR8 HELP


docpearl
Aim NONE

hi..m new to rxpg.i m a 2nd mb student n plan to give step1 during my internship.should i start reading kaplan notes from now?wat shud i do to prepare in that direction?


speedo
Aim MRCPCH Part 1

Name discripancy
hey.....AshB

U r doing a great job as the moderator on this forum. Its really helpful for starters like us. keep up the good work buddy.....I have a problem with my name. My passport has Mohammad as my first name, but my medical degree does not have Mohammad at all. i have an affidavit made from UK which I used quite convinently there. Can I use it to apply for USMLE as well? More importantly which name should I apply with? the passport one or the degree one? I would be highly grateful if u cld advise me abt my problem

thanx a ton

speedo icon_biggrin.gif


priyachokkappan
Aim USA Visa

hi.help me
hello friends,

im doing my IIImbbs.i wanna write my usmle-part1.To be frank i ve not read my 1st and 2nd yr portions thoroughly.and im at the end of my 3rd yr so i need to concentrate for my IIIyr univ exams and final yr later..and is that worth aiming for u.s without having a nice university score in 1st and 2nd yr?ll i end up with a day dream for u.s or is there any chance to get it if i work hard from now???at present my idea is to finish final yr and then look up for paper presentation during my house surgency.then write my part1.am i right ???.guide me plzzzzzzzzzzz....


AshB


docpearl wrote:
hi..m new to rxpg.i m a 2nd mb student n plan to give step1 during my internship.should i start reading kaplan notes from now?wat shud i do to prepare in that direction?

Hi docpearl & speedo.. welcome to rxpg and MLE forums.

Its better to focus on ur basic MBBS books. Try to build strong concepts rather that just cramming facts. Get urself clinically oreinted and even read theory in that light.

If u can find time, i feel reading kaplan will definitely orient u in MLE direction and wud be good for ur MLE preps. BUT REMEMBER, read kaplan only after u have grasped ur concepts from ur basic books.


AshB


Re: Name discripancy
speedo wrote:
hey.....AshB

U r doing a great job as the moderator on this forum. Its really helpful for starters like us. keep up the good work buddy.....I have a problem with my name. My passport has Mohammad as my first name, but my medical degree does not have Mohammad at all. i have an affidavit made from UK which I used quite convinently there. Can I use it to apply for <a href="http://www.rxpgonline.com/forum5.html">USMLE</a>
as well? More importantly which name should I apply with? the passport one or the degree one? I would be highly grateful if u cld advise me abt my problem

thanx a ton

speedo icon_biggrin.gif

Certainly, U shud apply with the one on degree. But as i've mentioned earlier, pls call up ECFMG and do exactly the way they advise u.

P.S.: None of d people posted their experience once their similar issue was resolved. Plz post whetever u r told by d ECFMG helpline so that it'll benefit others with problem similar to urs.


speedo
Aim MRCPCH Part 1

thanx AshB
Thanx for the speedy reply AshB. i will certainly do as you have advised and call up the ECFMG. I will make sure i post my response that i get from them, here.

Thanx a ton for ur help

speedo icon_biggrin.gif


ady1
Aim MRCGP

i need advise.
hi.
i'm a doctor from india.
i graduated in 1997. i'd initially planned to specialise in Anaesthesia but a situation led me to get into general surgery.
soon i realised i was not meant to be in surgery. but i couldn't get into Anaesthesia in india.
i came to uk to look for Anaesthesia programme. having specialised in surgery i couldn't get onto a programme in Anaesthesia inspite of my best efforts.
i've been sincere and achieved whatever needed achieving in the relevant field- MS in general surgery from india and MRCS in the UK.
currently, i'm on general practice training programme in the UK. though life seems stable for me in UK, i still feel i should be doing Anaesthesia .
i am planning to take USMLE now and if i succeed i intend to take Anaesthesia .
considering the fact that i've completed mbbs in 1997, have not statretd my mle prep and looking for Anaesthesia residency with a surgical background what would the members of this forum advise me?
thanks


ady1
Aim MRCGP

how does one IMG do post-doc fellowship in the USA?


pass_usmle


hello!
I want to make one thing clear in the very beginning. The USMLE exam is very different from the MBBS exams. The pattern, syllabus, questions asked do not match at all. So if you didnt score well in your MBBS 1 and 2 then this wont mean that you cant score well in the USMLE. Although you may face some difficulties in your MLE preps. And then university scores dont mean anything when you apply for the residency. Good scores in the USMLE step1 and step2CK are the key here.
U ask if there is a chance if you work hard now...wow what a naive question....Of course there is every chance...and all chances are reserved only for hard working people. So I suggest that you prepare well for the MBBS III yr exam now and once you get through just put some time aside to prepare for the USMLE. I would strongly suggest that you get hold of Kaplan USMLE lecture notes and begin with them. They are concise and pretty high yield.
When to take Step1...although you are eligible to take it after 2 years of medical school education everyone strongly advises against it. that is because after 2 yrs you still havent finished your basic science subjects in India. Then secondly step1 questions have become clinically oriented with clinical vignettes in almost every question. You will be in a better position to tackle these questions once you have some basic idea of clinical subjects. I will say that your plan is good. Start preparing now and apply for the exam when you are in your internship. 2-3 months of final revision is enough for the exam and then take the exam in your internship itself. Once you have your scores apply for the Step 2CK and take it preferable within 6 months.
This is it for now. Feel free to ask any further questions.
Bye....and happy reading.


AshB


Re: i need advise.
ady1 wrote:
hi.
currently, i'm on general practice training programme in the UK. though life seems stable for me in UK, i still feel i should be doing <a href="http://www.rxpgonline.com/forum105.html">Anaesthesia</a>
.
i am planning to take <a href="http://www.rxpgonline.com/forum5.html">USMLE</a>
now and if i succeed i intend to take <a href="http://www.rxpgonline.com/forum105.html">Anaesthesia</a>
.
considering the fact that i've completed mbbs in 1997, have not statretd my mle prep and looking for <a href="http://www.rxpgonline.com/forum105.html">Anaesthesia</a>
residency with a surgical background what would the members of this forum advise me?
thanks

Hi ady1, since u r very senior to us and u r already in UK, u must have seen a lot more. I don't even consider myself qualified to 'advise' such an experienced person.. icon_smile.gif but yes i'd state my view.

In general 6-7 years post-PG (since u have not yet taken MLE) its tougher to get a residency then immediately after MBBS. If u have some good publications it might be better for u to get a fellowship.

I don't have specific info pertaining to ur case but i wud suggest a course of action. To get the best info, go to a few anaesthesia program's website and e-mail their program co-ordinators n directors stating ur condition n attach ur complete CV. They are d most reliable sources to know d ground reality in ur case. These people respond nicely n might enlighten u on yet unseen aspects. They might also advise u about the possiblity of fellowships at their universities.

Good luck! icon_smile.gif


ady1
Aim MRCGP

dear ashb
thanks for replying and the info.


aks_00711


help help.......!!!
hey ppl plz help
can i give usmle step 1 in mumbai india...????
n i m in 2nd year,,,,wats the earliest that i can give step 1????


chintik


Dear ashb

I have done M.D. in medicine in 2004, and currently I am working in a Pharma industry since about six months. So can you please tell me about my prospects of getting residency if I clear usmle with 85+.

I mean 2 years post graduation is ok ?

As I will require another year for the preparation, so please let me know about my chances of getting residency with this background

Many thanks in advance


sherly
Aim USMLE Step 1

what score is a good score?

what department can i get with particular score?
i mean if i want a surgical department what score should i aim for.


AshB


chintik wrote:
Dear ashb

I have done M.D. in medicine in 2004, and currently I am working in a Pharma industry since about six months. So can you please tell me about my prospects of getting residency if I clear USMLE with 85+.

I mean 2 years post graduation is ok ?

As I will require another year for the preparation, so please let me know about my chances of getting residency with this background

Hi chintik! going by the trends of USMLE i would say 85+ is not d score u shud expect to get residency with these days. Its getting really tough with each passing year. In general fresh graduates r preferred in US. U will have lesser chances of getting residency than recent grads. But its not that bad if u can get scores in high 90s n show up some publications on ur CV.

But u have a simpler option of fellowship, specially if u have 2-3 publications at least and/or can find some contact to jack up ur application.

sherly wrote:
what department can i get with particular score?

Quite vague question, but still as u r inclined towards surgical specialities, least expected would be 95.

In the past, people have gotten into average programs of specialities like psychiatry, paeds, FP with scores around 85+ but it doesn't seem to hold good anymore with no of applicants soaring high. Simple.. why would they settle for a 85 when they have many candidates in 90s.

@ Sherly and Chintik: Scores is d only thing we IMGs have and so Aim for the best score, that is 99. No doubts about that, specially if u contemplating a surgical residency settle for nuthing less than high 90s. People with anything below 90 r finding it too tough to get interview calls this year n i suppose next year will be worse.

In USMLE, scores constitute only half d story. The other half is quite complicated and difficult and It includes:
1. USCE
2. Publications
3. US LORs
4. Research Experience
5. Visa Status
6. Contacts
7. Timing of application
8. No of scores in hand at d time of application
9. Choice of speciality
10. Choice of programs that u apply for
11. Other things like MPH etc
12. Interview itself can turn tables
13. Finally how u make ur ROL(Rank Order List) during match
..... n many more.. icon_biggrin.gif
I don't mean to scare u, but just wanted to tell all here that we gotta need to pull lots of strings to get things right in US.



speedo
Aim MRCPCH Part 1

Kaplan Lecture DVDS.....AshB Plz help....
Hi AshB.....

its speedo here.....how r things? Hey can u tell me where i can get the Kaplan Lecture DVDs for step 1.....i have their DVDs that contain the tutorials, nms, board simulator, atlas of anatomy and some question bank, which i bought frm the coaching. but its written in their lecture notes that these shd be read along with the lecture videos. is this the case? the kaplan coaching said they dont sell their lecture dvds. what shd do? Plz help......

thanx

speedo icon_biggrin.gif


sherly
Aim USMLE Step 1

thanks ashb!!!!! u r g8!!! so, you mean to say that along wtih the scores we also need to have some kind of publications, and research done and all the that you have written?? whaat does IMG mean???

can you also explan to me what i need to do or what happens after one gives the usmle step1, 2 and the csa exam? what s the next procedure? when do i chose my field?

you r really helpful.
when do u plan on going to us? you have giving both the steps??


roshan2k
Aim AIIMS November 2010

hello ashb,
i want to appear for usmle-1 in 2007.can u explain me in short from where to start,date application,scores.


shef
Aim USMLE Step 1

hi !!
m studying 4 step I , m innterested in neurology...and have heard that they offer a direct 5 yr residency prog in neuro,nephro etc...in the US(without doing internal medicine residency) wanted to know if its true....and wat r the reqquirements for it??
thanks..


suhasani
Aim NEET PG

hi i jst wanted to know if doing internship is necessary for doing USMLE exam


AshB


Re: help help.......!!!
aks_00711 wrote:
hey ppl plz help
can i give <a href="http://www.rxpgonline.com/forum5.html">USMLE</a>
step 1 in mumbai india...????
n i m in 2nd year,,,,wats the earliest that i can give step 1????

Testing sites for USMLE in India are:
1. Delhi
2. Gurgaon
3. Mumbai
4. Ahemadabad
5. Kolkata
6. Hyderabad
7. Chennai
8. Bangalore
9. Allahbad

U can take step 1 after completing 2 years of medical school, practically after completing ur 2nd prof.


speedo
Aim MRCPCH Part 1

Hi AshB.....
Hey AshB......

I am still waiting for ur reply.....I wanted to know if I can get the Kaplan Lecture dvds from anyhwere.....I have their other dvds like the nms, board simulator, atlas of anatomy, web path and some question banks, that i bought from the coaching. can u plz help me out???

thanx a ton for ur help

speedo icon_biggrin.gif


AshB


shef wrote:
hi !!
m studying 4 step I , m innterested in neurology...and have heard that they offer a direct 5 yr residency prog in neuro,nephro etc...in the US(without doing internal medicine residency) wanted to know if its true....and wat r the reqquirements for it??
thanks..

No specific requirement. Just clear ur MLE steps and apply to the program that offers such a program as u wud to an IM/Paeds program, if they select u, u can start such a combo residency.


AshB


sherly wrote:
thanks ashb!!!!! u r g8!!! so, you mean to say that along wtih the scores we also need to have some kind of publications, and research done and all the that you have written?? whaat does IMG mean???

can you also explan to me what i need to do or what happens after one gives the <a href="http://www.rxpgonline.com/forum5.html">USMLE</a>
step1, 2 and the csa exam? what s the next procedure? when do i chose my field?

IMG=International Medical Graduate, any person who has done his medical graduation outside the US.

Step1>Step2CK>Step2CS>ECFMG certification

Then apply to any branch n university u wish, u'll be interviewied at the ones who shortlist u. Then based on that u'll get a residency thru National Residency Matching Program (NRMP) or Match. Read hot topics in forums for more info.

sherly wrote:
you r really helpful.
when do u plan on going to us? you have giving both the steps??

Thanks for ur kind words..
No i'm supposed to take step 1 soon.


AshB


suhasani wrote:
hi i jst wanted to know if doing internship is necessary for doing <a href="http://www.rxpgonline.com/forum5.html">USMLE</a>
exam

No intern is not necessary for Step1. U can take it anytime after completion of 2 years of medical school.


AshB


roshan2k wrote:
hello ashb,
i want to appear for <a href="http://www.rxpgonline.com/forum5.html">USMLE</a>
-1 in 2007.can u explain me in short from where to start,date application,scores.

Go thru ecfmg.org, and read ECFMG information booklet for detailed info.

Start from this thread and read d hot topics in MLE forum n u'll gain lot of useful info...
Only RxPG members can see links here! Register or Login!


Post d undiscussed queries in d relevant thread or here.


AshB


Re: Hi AshB.....
speedo wrote:

I am still waiting for ur reply.....I wanted to know if I can get the Kaplan Lecture dvds from anyhwere.....I have their other dvds like the nms, board simulator, atlas of <a href="http://www.rxpgonline.com/forum97.html">Anatomy</a>
, web path and some question banks, that i bought from the coaching. can u plz help me out???

thanx a ton for ur help

speedo icon_biggrin.gif

U can borrow from others who have them or can buy from some online sites. I'm not aware of other sources.


doc_kalsi
Aim USMLE Step 1

hi
again i hav a problem
plz help me out
ok
here i go..

i applied online via IWA
completed it
then they said
print this form(no.183,its 4 the students who r currently enrolled in the college)
then
i got it signed frm my dean as they askd me to do

NOW the problem is...
plz can u tell me
IS THAT ALL I HAV TO SEND NOW(i mean jst 1 single sheet of paper)???
i mean wat is document submission form?
do i hav to send dat?
do i also hav to send form 344 and 345?????????
but i dont hav my final medical school diploma(i guess its the final MBBS degree certificate they mean)

hey plzz help me out with this 1
plz


AshB


doc_kalsi wrote:
hi
NOW the problem is...
plz can u tell me
IS THAT ALL I HAV TO SEND NOW(i mean jst 1 single sheet of paper)???
i mean wat is document submission form?
do i hav to send dat?
do i also hav to send form 344 and 345?????????
but i dont hav my final medical school diploma(i guess its the final MBBS degree certificate they mean)

hey plzz help me out with this 1
plz

I guess u din read properly my reply to ur earlier query! icon_evil.gif icon_evil.gif
Quote:
doc_kalsi wrote:
thanks ashB
plz can ya tell me
wat is to b send now
i hav applied online
i mean dean's letter?
or anything like dat?
plz

If u r a graduate:
Form 186, 187, 344, 345
Copy of ur Degree (NOT povisional one)
One passport photo
A copy of medical transcripts (Not essential but i sent it cos i had it with me)

If u r an UG/intern:
Form 183, 187, 344, 345
Dean's letter stating the date when u'll receive ur degree
One passport photo

U now get a letter from ur dean stating the date u'l receive ur degree. Usually the college office people are aware of d language etc needed in such cases, so u won't have much of a problem.

Don't forget to write ur ECFMG/USMLE id no on each document and photo.


jaissy


hi ash , can u please tell me in which months should i take step 1,2ck & 2cs in that order, to get 2008 match . I know u have discusssed abt that in detail in another thread but i could'nt quite get that in to my head . sorry to trouble u . thanks in advance .


speedo
Aim MRCPCH Part 1

Thanx AshB......
hey AshB.....

Thanx for your reply......cld u plz tell me which website to look into?

thanx for u help

speedo icon_biggrin.gif


arundhutik
Aim USMLE Step 1

hi, ur thread has been so helpful.......can u please tell me approx how mny months of preparation is required for step1, and is any verification of our degrees required before applying for the exam,i would be very thankful if u reply soon. and do we need to study the latest edition of first aid?


cutie555
Aim USMLE Step 2 CK

need immediate help
hi all,pl help me i got 82 in step1 and i v already joined step2.wat r chances of gettin a residency ???


suhasani
Aim NEET PG

usmle step 1
hi ihav done my internship from tanzania(east africa ) and wanted to sit for step 1 i havent done my internship yet just wanted to know if its required to do internship for the USMLE exam ???? icon_cry.gif icon_confused.gif icon_sad.gif


AshB


jaissy wrote:
hi ash , can u please tell me in which months should i take step 1,2ck & 2cs in that order, to get 2008 match . I know u have discusssed abt that in detail in another thread but i could'nt quite get that in to my head . sorry to trouble u . thanks in advance .

See jaissy, i'm not aware how many days of preps u've already put in. I'll advise under d assumption that u've started recently.

See Ideally we shud have all our scores ready before early september upto Step3. Nothing would beat that, n that'll give u d best results.

The minimal with which we can participate in 2008 match is if we take our step2CS b4 31st dec, 2007.

Now some1 in a situation like u can get somewhere in between these two. U can take d steps roughly in d following fashion:
1. Step1 - Around Feb-March
2. Step2CK - early July
3. Step2CS - Late aug
4. Step3- october or nov (so as to have ur step3 scores with u during ur interviews.)

Though there'll be lot of road blocks like visa etc. U'll have to plan meticulously in advance specially the Step2CS, visa interview, n step3 part.

Yes, step3 is optional, if u r not hell bent on H1B. Plus step3 scores r not taken into consideration by all programs. But if u have scored well in it too, its definitely a plus point n even serves to mask any previous under-performances.

Thats my 2 cents.. icon_smile.gif


navz


hi AshB!!!
u mentioned step 3 being optional if one wants H1B visa? y is this visa prefered over the other one we would get if we have not given step 3? one more doubt:P i read soem where in the thread that this time IMGs who got matched for 2006 was less than 50% icon_sad.gif...gulp!!! so now if by soem bad luck i happen to fall on the other 50% where i do not get matched!! does this mean iam supposed to wait another year for the next match?? plz solve my queries Ash B...icon_sad.gif


pass_usmle


Congrats on passing the exam. 82 is an ok score. Residency??? well its too premature to comment on that. First pass step2 and then you will have to compare the scores and speculate. depends on what you r looking forward to....u may not get the top ones viz dermat,surg...but who knows as the score alone is not the deciding factor.
Do a bit of more hard work for the step2 and I hope you may stand in a better position. Keep up the hard work....
Bye


AshB


Re: <a href=
suhasani wrote:
hi ihav done my internship from tanzania(east africa ) and wanted to sit for step 1 i havent done my internship yet just wanted to know if its required to do internship for the <a href="http://www.rxpgonline.com/forum5.html">USMLE</a>
exam ???? icon_cry.gif icon_confused.gif icon_sad.gif

Quote:
suhasani wrote:
hi i jst wanted to know if doing internship is necessary for doing <a href="http://www.rxpgonline.com/forum5.html">USMLE </a>
exam

No intern is not necessary for Step1. U can take it anytime after completion of 2 years of medical school.


At least read d replies to ur queries before reposting them. icon_rolleyes.gif


AshB


Re: hi AshB!!!
navz wrote:
u mentioned step 3 being optional if one wants H1B visa? y is this visa prefered over the other one we would get if we have not given step 3?

Hi navz.. Read answer to ur question n more at this link..
Only RxPG members can see links here! Register or Login!


navz wrote:
one more doubt:P i read soem where in the thread that this time IMGs who got matched for 2006 was less than 50% icon_sad.gif...gulp!!! so now if by soem bad luck i happen to fall on the other 50% where i do not get matched!! does this mean iam supposed to wait another year for the next match?? plz solve my queries Ash B...icon_sad.gif

There is a post match scramble, ie. those who do not get matched, make a dash for yet unfilled seats. There r also some programs that do not participate in match. Some get a prematch. This way, the actual figure runs 15-20% higher than match figures.

But still d remaining have no option but to apply again. N with each year, this group is greatly increasing in number. icon_eek.gif


cutie555
Aim USMLE Step 2 CK

hi pass_usmle,actualy was abit confused whether to proceed or not but ya alone step1 is not the end,so need much more concentration on step2 now.thanx for ur guidance

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