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Quick Scroll Double 99 - A Big Problem 12.01.07 (8 months ago) #1

There are some problems associated with Double 99 :--

(a) If you don't get a Double99 you are doomed.

(b) 10-15% of IMGs are double 99ers.

(c) If you get Double 99 without a Good CV you won't get more than 10 calls.

(d) Double-99 is no Big Deal now-a-days.

A guy with Double-99 with 4 months clerkship from University of Texas at Dallas got only 6 calls in IM. Now what more can be expected of an IMG. Double-99, Clerkship, Tag of Institution.

Only Americans know how they send Interview calls and there seems to be no deciding factor. Everything is Luck.
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Quick Scroll 12.01.07 (8 months ago) #2

i am surprised at this years' all of sudden crashing decline in number of calls , and i am hearing same from every one ,left right and centre.
and There is no consistent reason showing up for the situation.yes with the ambigous data nothing more than luck can be blamed for,
and i was wondering if this is the repercussion of reflux of medics from UK ?

Scary ,eh!
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Quick Scroll Re: Double 99 - A Big Problem 12.01.07 (8 months ago) #3

dipsite wrote:
There are some problems associated with Double 99 :--

(a) If you don't get a Double99 you are doomed.

(b) 10-15% of IMGs are double 99ers.

(c) If you get Double 99 without a Good CV you won't get more than 10 calls.

(d) Double-99 is no Big Deal now-a-days.

A guy with Double-99 with 4 months clerkship from University of Texas at Dallas got only 6 calls in IM. Now what more can be expected of an IMG. Double-99, Clerkship, Tag of Institution.

Only Americans know how they send Interview calls and there seems to be no deciding factor. Everything is Luck.

Yeah, its hard to predict what exactly works. I got rejects from lots of average hospitals while got calls from a few highly rated programs. I really wonder why those average programs don't consider me good enough when these competitive programs could consider me. But then that happens to everybody and there is no clear explanation to this phenomenon.

Somehow in this match there has been an increasing polarization into two groups. One group with 15+ calls and another group with <4 calls. And you'll find a lot of good scorers too in the 2nd group. It implies there is a small group of people who's getting interviews from everywhere. This has caused a shift in time till when IV calls come. Since the 1st group is bound to cancel IVs at some point, there will be late calls for many in the 2nd group.
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Quick Scroll 12.02.07 (8 months ago) #4

This year everypne is playing safe so people have applied to far many programmes than ever before and that to in the same places aka IMG friendly lists so more than a real crisis it is an excess information crisis ..... So the top 100 'IMG friendly ' hospitals are getting all the 7000 applications ... mind you there will be 6-7000 posiions for IMG's and almost the same no of applicants but the distribution is not right
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Quick Scroll 12.02.07 (8 months ago) #5

mledoc wrote:
This year everypne is playing safe so people have applied to far many programmes than ever before and that to in the same places aka IMG friendly lists so more than a real crisis it is an excess information crisis ..... So the top 100 'IMG friendly ' hospitals are getting all the 7000 applications ... mind you there will be 6-7000 posiions for IMG's and almost the same no of applicants but the distribution is not right

I agree mledoc, this year people have applied in hordes and one of the reasons is so called IMG friendly lists.

But the data you mentioned is wrong. the number of IMGs that matched last year was around 4550. If we exclude the US citizen IMGs the number is around 3200. So the match rate is not 100%.

In fact the % of Non-US citizen IMGs matching was around 45% in the last match. And this year this % will go further down because of the backlog of last year as well as continuosly increasing docs from UK.
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Quick Scroll 12.02.07 (8 months ago) #6

U mean double 99
is no use?
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Quick Scroll 12.02.07 (8 months ago) #7

In year 2006 an AIIMSonian told me "Double-99 is no big deal" at that time I thought she was kidding..but..Here it is..

One of my friend who got a call from University Of Michigan told me that University of Michigan received >3000 applications this year and out of these 140 are double-99 ers..

I was going through Interview of a Program Co-Ordinator on Prep4usmle forum which stated that 10-15% of IMGs are double-99ers.

Double-99 is no big deal now-a-days..I accept this fact now.
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Quick Scroll 12.02.07 (8 months ago) #8

One more thing, there seems to be no deciding factor in getting Interview calls. Here it is :-

(a) ECFMG Certification :- It is said that timely ECFMG Certification (by 1st september) helps in getting interview calls. Then how can a guy who got himself ECFMG certified in last week of October has got 18 calls .

(b) USCE :- huh!! People without USCE are getting 6-7 calls and those with USCE too..YOu can see the example in very first post of this thread.

(c) Scores :- Yeah !! It really counts..Full marks to USMLE Scores.
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Quick Scroll 12.02.07 (8 months ago) #9

@siyaa

I have to quote you "i am surprised at this years' all of sudden crashing decline in number of calls , and i am hearing same from every one ,left right and centre. "

This is not true ..

I know a guy who has got 27 calls in IM..another one 18,,another one 19,,

I agree with this Somehow in this match there has been an increasing polarization into two groups. One group with 15+ calls and another group with <4 calls.

I guess Americans are foolish (clever), they prefer clerkships but come up with New York 12 week Clerkship rule..They prefer Research but Indian Research has little value..They prefer LORs but Indian LORs have no value..They prefer USCE but Observership has little value.

isshh!!! It irritates.
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Quick Scroll 12.02.07 (8 months ago) #10

Thank U dipsite.
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