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georgie
Aim USMLE Step 2 CS

thanks airhant!!!! but also tell us how to decipher all those numbers???

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fragile_x
Aim USMLE Jobs

lets just take one step at a time.

a more detailed in-depth analysis as to which programs to apply to,how to do well at interview,wat points matter in gettin a residency may be discussed when we start applying.

if one is only making up their mind as to whether they should take the MLE,then its another matter.

for those ur already in it.......jus take one step at a time.

"a journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step.......confucius."

the data tht i gave......is comparitive analysis for 2005 vs 2006.......absolute figures followed by %age.

peace!


PunjabDaPutr


Friends,
Several tips for those who are trying to come US to practce medicine:

1) Before you start --plan your timeline, your finances, your aim - whether you want to become whatever specialist you can or you want a particular speciality. Try to be flexible.

2) Have a BACK UP plan...what are your options if you cant make it e.g. cash crunch, visa problems etc...

3) Do not get discouraged ...if you dont try ....u will never make it!!!

4) Once you start your journey....never look back.....visa rules will change hundred times.....exam policies will change thousand times.....just focus on the next step.

5) It is a must to get high scores BUT residency interviews are a day long process...they will judge you for who you are not just your scores.....can u speak english well and communicate...are you curious enough to learn...are you friendly or not...will you be a team player or not....

That is the reason someone with a 99/99 will not get the position but a 75/75 will.
I know a 95/97 brilliant doc who came for the interview in his jeans and sneaker and did not make it. I also know someone with a score in his 70s who negotiated his way to get the contract.

6) For those who want to know if it is possible ....it is!

7) For those who want to know if US is racist....No ....they are fair. If you deserve it, you will get it. If you don't, you won't.

8) Is life better in US...Yes ! that is the reason very few doctors come back!

9) Have people suffered on their way to settle in this country....I will say they have struggled.....I have a russian friend who lifted boxes to load in the truck, then came and attended a research class and learned to speak in English for two full years.......now he is a a practicing physician and drives a mercedes. A Bangladeshi friend of mine, a surgeon in his country could not pass his exam and left back to practice surgery. ........Another friend of mine tried for 8 years to get a residency and finally got one.......But most of them get it and once they get it they forget what they went through.

10) Will you miss India..Yes you will but you will not want to come back!

11) OK now techncal tips:

Pass step 3 before you apply and get H-1 visa NOT J-1 ....it will save you lot of trouble in the long run.

Get into the system--- do research etc when in US so people know you and you build your resume.

Your resume has to be perfect.

Get high scores.

Speak English with friends so you can become fluent.

Be confident in interviews, not humble.....tell them your qualities dont keep quiet.

Never speak in any language other than English during the interview even when waiting even if you meet your pal from chittorgarh. It is considered extremely rude.

Never listen to anyone who discourages you about coming to US. Two days before I left India my senior made it a point to come to me and advise me to not go. He said I was making a big mistake. I didnt listen and I am glad I didnt!


georgie
Aim USMLE Step 2 CS

thats a great source of encouragement.....THankYoU punjab da putr

thanks airhant


AshB


Hey PunjabDaPutr.. Thanks yaar. U have given a very encouragring post, I've already started feeling better.. icon_smile.gif

we do welcome more such useful tips from u.

Thanks again..


fragile_x
Aim USMLE Jobs

a brilliant post indeed!

i sense this guy has got his resi. this year!

thts y i say ppl shouldnt just be on the sidelines!

thnx man


peace!


doc04
Aim NEET PG

Thanks for your encouraging words.......Grass is never green unless watered!!!
PunjabDaPutr wrote:
Friends,
Several tips for those who are trying to come US to practce medicine:

1) Before you start --plan your timeline, your finances, your aim - whether you want to become whatever specialist you can or you want a particular speciality. Try to be flexible.

2) Have a BACK UP plan...what are your options if you cant make it e.g. cash crunch, visa problems etc...

3) Do not get discouraged ...if you dont try ....u will never make it!!!

4) Once you start your journey....never look back.....visa rules will change hundred times.....exam policies will change thousand times.....just focus on the next step.

5) It is a must to get high scores BUT residency interviews are a day long process...they will judge you for who you are not just your scores.....can u speak english well and communicate...are you curious enough to learn...are you friendly or not...will you be a team player or not....

That is the reason someone with a 99/99 will not get the position but a 75/75 will.
I know a 95/97 brilliant doc who came for the interview in his jeans and sneaker and did not make it. I also know someone with a score in his 70s who negotiated his way to get the contract.

6) For those who want to know if it is possible ....it is!

7) For those who want to know if US is racist....No ....they are fair. If you deserve it, you will get it. If you don't, you won't.

8) Is life better in US...Yes ! that is the reason very few doctors come back!

9) Have people suffered on their way to settle in this country....I will say they have struggled.....I have a russian friend who lifted boxes to load in the truck, then came and attended a research class and learned to speak in English for two full years.......now he is a a practicing physician and drives a mercedes. A Bangladeshi friend of mine, a surgeon in his country could not pass his exam and left back to practice surgery. ........Another friend of mine tried for 8 years to get a residency and finally got one.......But most of them get it and once they get it they forget what they went through.

10) Will you miss India..Yes you will but you will not want to come back!

11) OK now techncal tips:

Pass step 3 before you apply and get H-1 visa NOT J-1 ....it will save you lot of trouble in the long run.

Get into the system--- do research etc when in US so people know you and you build your resume.

Your resume has to be perfect.

Get high scores.

Speak English with friends so you can become fluent.

Be confident in interviews, not humble.....tell them your qualities dont keep quiet.

Never speak in any language other than English during the interview even when waiting even if you meet your pal from chittorgarh. It is considered extremely rude.

Never listen to anyone who discourages you about coming to US. Two days before I left India my senior made it a point to come to me and advise me to not go. He said I was making a big mistake. I didnt listen and I am glad I didnt!



psu
Aim NEET PG

hi ashb,i have taken my step1 date---may 1 week and plan to take step 2 in aug and cs in oct 1 wk.will i be elligible for match 2007?


AshB


psu wrote:
hi ashb,i have taken my step1 date---may 1 week and plan to take step 2 in aug and cs in oct 1 wk.will i be elligible for match 2007?


Yes U will definitely be eligible for 2007 match even if u take CS by 31st Dec, 06. But i'd suggest u do not postpone it from mid Oct cos that might weaken ur chance of getting a pre-match offer.

Good luck!! icon_smile.gif


fragile_x
Aim USMLE Jobs

arre ashB yaar kahan rehta hai aajkal!

offbeat par maar-kaat machi hui thi.......lol


AshB


arihant_d wrote:
arre ashB yaar kahan rehta hai aajkal!

offbeat par maar-kaat machi hui thi.......lol

MLE forum is a bit dull these days.. icon_sad.gif

Haan main bhi us maarkaat ka chhota sa hissa hun..

I think we need some valuable trash in offbeat from u too arihant.. icon_wink.gif

P.S. Please ignore d oxymoron 'Valuable Trash'.. icon_lol.gif


fragile_x
Aim USMLE Jobs

after 15 days....i"ll go crazy on offbeat!
lol

not now....bbye


fragile_x
Aim USMLE Jobs

after 15 days....i"ll be all over the offbeat!
lol

not now....bbye


AshB


Oh u have ur step 1 now? Good luck man!!! icon_smile.gif


drss
Aim DM Cardiology

hello all.........i appreciate wat is said by punjab da puttar......

gr8 words frm sm1 really gr8 yar...

thnx a lot.....


docsuresh
Aim PLAB Part 2

is it tough to get in to anaesthesia
hello friends
i have done diploma in anaesthesia, can any body tell me ,is it tough to get in to anaesthesia.what scores are required? icon_rolleyes.gif


psu
Aim NEET PG

dear ashb,had applied formy step one and had recieved my scheduling permit also but after that a letter stating that verification from my parent college had not reached usa.will my scheduling permit be valid?


psu
Aim NEET PG

ash b where r u? do reply to my post.iamvery tense


AshB


psu wrote:
dear ashb,had applied formy step one and had recieved my scheduling permit also but after that a letter stating that verification from my parent college had not reached usa.will my scheduling permit be valid?

See psu, frankly i don't have a very clear idea. But as far as i know if there is some problem with verification, they withhold ur result cos it happened in case of a fren in Step 2. But it shud in no way affect d status of ur scheduling permit.

did u check with ur college office, whether they have sent d verification? Ask them if they could resend it since it has not reached d ECFMG.

Still i'd suggest, d best approach would be to call ECFMG about any such problem u have.

P.S.: Please post in d relevant forum, like "Steps for applying to Step1" in this case. That ways u'll get more and much clear cut replies.


georgie
Aim USMLE Step 2 CS

did anyone read the article in HINDU ,... uk changes visa rules!!!!!!! so i think UK option is not closed..


what do u think it s gonna affect us????? will tere be a lot of them for usmle?????


sherlock
Aim AIIMS

AshB,
seems you are the guru of this forum.i want to have my doubt cleared.i have cleared my step one and i m currently in final yr.wud you think it wise to go for pg first and then states or otherwise.i m saying this coz nodoby is sure of a visa these days.plz do reply.


AshB


sherlock wrote:
AshB,
seems you are the guru of this forum.i want to have my doubt cleared.i have cleared my step one and i m currently in final yr.wud you think it wise to go for pg first and then states or otherwise.i m saying this coz nodoby is sure of a visa these days.plz do reply.

Well Sherlock (homes) nice to meet u.. Dr Watson here.. icon_lol.gif icon_wink.gif

Just kidding! There r no GURU, all we r doing here is sharing our thoughts and info. icon_smile.gif

Well d dilemma u face has been a hot discussion always. Do read d forums and u'll find lots of views.

But if u ask me, i'd say don't go to US just as an alternative. Go if u really want to go. Then it doesn't matter if its USMLE/AMC/AIPG. U have to slog n struggle everywhere. Remember, trying to be on both d boats at d same time is more risky. So better decide ur priorities first and then go for it whole heartedly.

Well visa is certainly an issue but right now d picture is rosy. We hope it'll continue to be d same.. icon_smile.gif

U can see d following links for related discussion n info on ur similar kind of dilemma..
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Hope this helps.. icon_smile.gif


coolsumit
Aim MD Paediatrics

hello ashB,how nuch time one should take 4 step 1.plz guide


fragile_x
Aim USMLE Jobs

we"ve been through this discussion how many times ashB...anyway.......as per calculations,the answer is..

5 months 19 days!

peace!

A


sherlock
Aim AIIMS

AshB wrote:
sherlock wrote:
AshB,
seems you are the guru of this forum.i want to have my doubt cleared.i have cleared my step one and i m currently in final yr.wud you think it wise to go for pg first and then states or otherwise.i m saying this coz nodoby is sure of a visa these days.plz do reply.

Well Sherlock (homes) nice to meet u.. Dr Watson here.. icon_lol.gif icon_wink.gif

Just kidding! There r no GURU, all we r doing here is sharing our thoughts and info. icon_smile.gif

Well d dilemma u face has been a hot discussion always. Do read d forums and u'll find lots of views.

But if u ask me, i'd say don't go to US just as an alternative. Go if u really want to go. Then it doesn't matter if its href="http://www.rxpgonline.com/forum5.html">USMLE</a>
/AMC/AIPG. U have to slog n struggle everywhere. Remember, trying to be on both d boats at d same time is more risky. So better decide ur priorities first and then go for it whole heartedly.

Well visa is certainly an issue but right now d picture is rosy. We hope it'll continue to be d same.. icon_smile.gif

U can see d following links for related discussion n info on ur similar kind of dilemma..
Only RxPG members can see links here! Register or Login!

and
Only RxPG members can see links here! Register or Login!


Hope this helps.. icon_smile.gif
thanks for answering.ll keep in touch. icon_smile.gif


AshB


coolsumit wrote:
hello ashB,how nuch time one should take 4 step 1.plz guide

Sumit, u need to read d hot topics in d USMLE forum for ur queries. All answers u'll find there.
For step 1 freshers usually take 5-7 months with 6-7 hrs a day.


AshB


arihant_d wrote:
we"ve been through this discussion how many times ashB...anyway.......as per calculations,the answer is..

5 months 19 days!

peace!

A

icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif
Arihant has stated d exact number which came up as a result of a multicentric double blind placebo controlled trial on 500 USMLE step 1 aspirants. icon_wink.gif icon_wink.gif icon_wink.gif


doctweet
Aim MRCOG Part 1

Hi PunjabDaPuttar

Thank u so much 4 ur frank words of encouragement,,,,so wat it boils down 2 is dat if u got gud scores, drive n determination, & a pleasing, hardworking personality, u will sooner or later make it in2 a resd.

Aft so much doubt n anxiety u seem 2 hav cleared d air somwat,,,,thank u once again,,,,,pls keep it up


neo_the_one009
Aim USMLE Step 2 CK

whtever the situation is..or it is going to be...those who works hard and never tire..will eventually get success...
Be positive......
Don't afraid dear...in usa there r pretty small percentage of local public who work hard to clear usmle as they r nt used to..and we hv d advantage here that we can work hard and efficiently too..second thing...they also need quality docs....so only those who have potential and capability and those who deserve must get wht they want in usa..
STOP CRYING AND STOP BLUFFING


kayef
Aim USMLE Step 2 CS

hi there;
whats the scenero in us now for img s
good or bad


mleresidencytips


kayef wrote:
hi there;whats the scenero in us now for img s good or bad

Scenario is tough. But as always competition in any of these fields is cut throat. Still almost 45-50% of all graduate residency positions are filled by IMGs which is pretty decent. The competition comes from the tens of thousands of IMGs applying for those 50% seats.


cdrin
Aim NEET PG 2012

Sam obtained his medical degree from a school in Eastern Europe prior to immigrating to the United States. Now he spends his days cleaning surgical instruments and his nights working in a restaurant.

"Someday I'll be a surgeon, just like you," he says to me.

How did this happen? Sam had a bad Match Day.

Medical training in the U.S. involves four years of medical school followed by 3 to 6 years of residency training. International graduates must also attend residency in the U.S. if they wish to practice here.

On Match Day, graduating medical students learn which residency program they'll be joining. Residency determines a physician's field of medicine. For a young doctor to become a pediatrician, for example, he or she must complete a pediatric residency.



According to the NRMP, last year 971 graduates of U.S. medical schools were shut out, accounting for 5.9% of U.S. grads. Graduates of international medical schools fared even worse - less than 50% of them obtained a residency.

That means more than 7,000 doctors were left with a diploma that said "M.D." but no guarantee they would be able to use it.

Just like Sam.

So what are all of these doctors doing?

The majority of unmatched grads obtain a temporary one-year residency spot with no guarantee of future training. They then reapply the following year with hopes of landing a permanent, multi-year residency position.

Others wind up performing research in labs prior to re-entering the Match. Still others abandon their dreams of becoming a practicing physician and exit the medical field altogether.

This situation is only going to worsen. Due to the pending doctor shortage, the Association of American Medical Colleges (AAMC) has called for a 30% increase in medical school enrollment, or 5,000 more doctors each year. College universities have responded to this demand, with 18 new medical schools currently in the process of opening.

The increase in the number of medical students would lead to an increase in residency positions as well, right?

Wrong.

Since 2001, the number of first year residency positions has increased by 3,000, compared to a whopping increase of 6,500 applicants. The slow growth in residency positions is likely due to a 15 year freeze in Medicare support. The current federal budget problems make lifting the freeze unlikely in the near future.

So what does this mean?

For an unmatched M.D. like Sam, it doesn't bode well. After going unmatched his first year, he tried to match again the following year, but failed.

As the years pass, it's becoming more and more likely that Sam will never be able to use the degree he earned.

I watch Sam meticulously clean and rinse the surgical instruments, his hands moving steadily and purposefully. There is not an ounce of unused motion. The fluidity and grace in his hands remind me of my surgical mentors.

Then the sad realization hits me. It doesn't matter how much Sam wants it.

He will never be a surgeon.
Sourced from ksat dot com google thousands of doctors don't get residencies


mleresidencytips


in a similar vein to cdrins post travails of an international medical graduate: the cost of getting into a residency
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sathish2806


evn if we clear getting visa difficult


mleresidencytips


sathish2806 wrote:
evn if we clear getting visa difficult

true there are many steps to clear before you can get residency in US. it depends on how strongly you want to pursue this.

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