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Friday 3rd of April 2009 12:34:39 AM (1 year ago)
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The oft sited excuse for our films is that audience wants it that way. If its true then it's a vindication of idea that Indians have poor tastes. And if it is false then our filmmakers disingenuous and have poor tastes despite wealth of resources. |
why our audience want that way? pls read d post no. 4 and 8 .know why they have to PREFER this what u call d poor taste. n i agreed there with u that d reason may b d economy
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Friday 3rd of April 2009 12:42:52 AM (1 year ago)
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....cont...but my point of debate was this doesnt mean that indians are intellectally mediocre as general, what you commented in your very first post as a point of debate. later on u sifted ur views to cultural and social mediocrity. meanwhile somewhere you commented indirectly that indians are culturally well . here too no one will agree with you that indians are culturally mediocre!
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Friday 3rd of April 2009 12:43:05 AM (1 year ago)
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....cont...but my point of debate was this doesnt mean that indians are intellectally mediocre as general, what you commented in your very first post as a point of debate. later on u sifted ur views to cultural and social mediocrity. meanwhile somewhere you commented indirectly that indians are culturally well . here too no one will agree with you that indians are culturally mediocre!
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Friday 3rd of April 2009 12:48:04 AM (1 year ago)
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@ rx smile:
in my original post and subsequent replies I'm just speculating. I don't necessarily understand the dynamics.
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are you still speculating ?or have convinced yourself well with your own views this time.  |
hmmm... I'm still not sure arguing for me is about convincing myself as much as I'm trying to convince you. You don't have to agree with me and vice a versa.
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Friday 3rd of April 2009 12:50:43 AM (1 year ago)
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those movies in which there is hardly any enjoyment are being thrown by the viewers into the dustbin, here and everywhere! but those movies which gets proven to the taste of viewers,whatever the location,are being accepted.
if you like sour grapes more but the apple will be the best choice intellectually,doesnt mean you will not eat grapes ever and will eat apples only being an intellectual person. just an e.g. |
problem is that in India they only produce sour grapes |
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Friday 3rd of April 2009 01:04:13 AM (1 year ago)
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those movies in which there is hardly any enjoyment are being thrown by the viewers into the dustbin, here and everywhere! but those movies which gets proven to the taste of viewers,whatever the location,are being accepted.
if you like sour grapes more but the apple will be the best choice intellectually,doesnt mean you will not eat grapes ever and will eat apples only being an intellectual person. just an e.g. |
problem is that in India they only produce sour grapes |
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sour grapes tastes good compared to an apple fun apart same thing again this doesnt mean that we are intellectally mediocre . in your first post you had commented that indian film makers make films mediocre since indian people are intellectually mediocre. i dont find any of your point justifyin that intellectual mediocrity why they make cheap imitations is again the matter of economy . they try to imitate just because......
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Friday 3rd of April 2009 01:09:52 AM (1 year ago)
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...cont....they try to imitate just because they know the indian audience is intellectual enough like the western audience! (this again contradicts your point) but again the economy restricts them even this applies to the yash chopra
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Friday 3rd of April 2009 01:16:41 AM (1 year ago)
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and about not getting nobels and all that, why are you measuring .our. intellect with .their. scales? does all those nobels and oscars need to decide our intellectual capacities? you must be knowing all those biases which prevents us from getting them. so why use those scales??
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Friday 3rd of April 2009 01:33:11 AM (1 year ago)
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in short i am against the point that indians are intellectually mediocre in general as compared to westernrs. people in all parts of the world are similar in this issue.
our cultural superiority need not to be questioned.
i agree with you we are economically mediocre.
taste may be influenced by the economy and complexities of life for a timebeing but need not to be correlated with the intellectual capacities on a long term basis .
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Friday 3rd of April 2009 01:58:21 AM (1 year ago)
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i dont believe indians are 'intellectually' mediocre. if it would be so..you wouldnt have started this thread
indians find .pleasue. in the entertainment and westernrs find .pleasure. in the complex thing , doesnt matter they always undertand that in a first go! and them they get entertained! |
sorryguys i ddnt check b4 posting it. there was an eror in typng. pls read as 'not necessarily' instead of 'doesnt matter'
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Friday 3rd of April 2009 02:10:18 AM (1 year ago)
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neither creativity nor the ability to enjoy creativity needs education economy . you will find many examples here and everywhere, also in history and present world.
sophistication and mannerism is also not a must for it. many are known for their works but many of them were not sophisticated and well mannered in their own personal lifes! |
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one or two examples r.....
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Friday 3rd of April 2009 02:19:53 AM (1 year ago)
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.....cont.... one or two examples are already mentioned by you earlier. you must be knowing the hindi phrase 'kharab paani mein kamal khilna' you can find all those examples associated with it
about the 2nd statement, you too have quoted in similar way in your first post . and also it will not be a good thing to post such names because they must be known with their works than their personal lifes
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Friday 3rd of April 2009 03:48:48 AM (1 year ago)
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in my original post and sub............... |
are you still speculating ?or have convinced ur ............D |
hmmm... I'm still not sure arguing for me is about convincing myself as much as I'm trying to convince you........... |
oops sorry i missed to see this post n went on typing on my snailmail browser i was just kidin at that post buddy
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Friday 3rd of April 2009 04:12:03 AM (1 year ago)
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rx smile ur posts r meaningless. sorry........
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Friday 3rd of April 2009 05:11:54 AM (1 year ago)
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| rx smile ur posts r meaningless. sorry........ |
hey buddy what are your views ?
do you think indians are intellectually and culturally mediocre? and if so, why do you think so? pls share ur views here
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