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DISCUSSION TOPIC: Indian Government has decided to give excemption for Foreign Medical Graduates of India (i.e. from russian countries) from the MCI Registration test
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hi

...this is a democracy....people say what they want...and most of all, the people's comments above r givin the australian sledgers a run for their money...

.......there is no need for people to be thretened by this move....i guess all the comments r just defensive mechanisms....& besides if all the indian educated medicos think they r so good then they shldnt be worried abt the loss of opportunities to foreign medicos(even in india i've seen drs with not so great medical basis).. & all the foreign educated medicos(i've seen them too with inadequacies) must prove their point by gettin placements in india.......all fair & square

.........no need for slandering.....both sides have their missgivings...(as for medical quality in india...india is gifted with really good doctors....one of the best in the world...but pls tell me this....wht can a patient in an emergency situation in india, when faced with a life thretening situation, do???... the response time of emergency medical care in india is nothing to boast about...try this simple test- ask people u know what tel. no. to dial in an emergency situation... & then ask this same question to people in europe or americas...(most of them will answer 911..which is not indian)........even our system needs help....many of indian medicos r so tired of their lives in india that they want to go abroad or just quit......all i wish to say is no one is perfect......

jacobmartin · Credits: 160 My Scrapbook

OK! great.......everyone supports this move.but i have 1 question.....will the similar thing apply to an indian MBBS graduate who wants to practice in a foreign country.....it does't ....then you will be met with all sorts of roadblocks,like PLAB ,USMLE ,MCC.........if these countries want to ensure that a doctor practicing in their country should have the minimum qualification, why cant we in INDIA ensure the same.........is it because an indian life is less precious....less precious than the carriers of a handfull of foriegn graduates,who were never able to prove themselves in india and their only qualification was that they had LOADS OF MONEY.......

dr_abhinav · Credits: 438 My Scrapbook

guys..n gals..these foreign medical graduates ddont know anything of indian public health sceneraio.. they ddont know the iap schedule of vaccination... but still they enjoyed their 7 yrs of life there in Russia and come back here for registration.. well why ddont ministry of health n welfare gives recognition to post graduate courses also...so that people go n do md/ms frm Russia enjoy there... cm back n smile at people doing or waiting for post graduation here... well md medicine n radiology just 2 yrs there n fees 4000$ first yr n 3000$ for second yr..

anuj · Credits: 4672 My Scrapbook

control pa ji...tusi senti hote ja rahe ho...thz z yet not final...brother

Guest · Credits: 77790 My Scrapbook My Reading List 262569 Books

well this is just to request all those great shining beacons of studious and brilliant students who have proven themselves by securing admission in an indian medical college just to answer honestly if all the entrance examinations in india are held in a free and fair manner?dont people who have the qualification "of having money" also manage to get admissions in medical colleges?is the only criteria of securing admission in an indian medical college purely merit only?agreed there are certain samples who have blackened the name of all Russia returned doctors.but at the same time there are also good students. so just on the bvasis of one or two the entire lot cannot be judged.

Ramakrishna · Credits: 154 My Scrapbook

The exemption from the test is given because the minister is worried by the "plight" of the doctors.
This is the line used by the minister in a news paper while considering the news paper.
Definitely there r good and brilliant foregn medical graduates. But there has to be a rule and it has to be followed. The minister should also consider the plight of the patients also which is rather their primary duty.
It is something like this. An MBBS student may be very brilliant that he may pass total course in 1 year. but still he has to go thru all 5 and 1/2 years.

jacobmartin · Credits: 160 My Scrapbook

Mr.Guest doest have a great opinion about indian medical system....no wonder........
Its nobodies case that our system is perfect.........at times medical seats in india do go to the undeserved ...to the ones who can pay.....but then its the exception rather than the rule.......but Mr.Guest himself will tell us that Money is the ONLY RULE to get a medical seat in Russia ......I have never heard of any qualification exam for a russian mecal degree......and if iam wrong please do correct me Mr.Guest.......

jacobmartin · Credits: 160 My Scrapbook

And if buying a seat in india were so easy these guys would never have gone to Russia in the first place......
so please dodn't give these stupid reasonings and make a fool of yourself......because the truth is there for everyone to see.......the truth is you guys have failed to prove yourself and when it was clear that passing a qualifying exam in india was never going to be easy you just made sure that there will no longer be an exam........and how you guys were able to do that is anybodies guess.......

soldier · Credits: 77790 My Scrapbook My Reading List 262569 Books

Fireater · Credits: 136 My Scrapbook

Gentlemen, it is easy to heap pontifications and opinionate on the educational systems of others.

Objectively, today, the basic M.B.B.S is of no use, perhaps thats exactly why we are here in course of seeking a P.G.

In a market economy of skills and professions, medical students from India emmigrate to UK, US and elsewhere, others immigrate to take up those places., all the while the ration of doctors:population stays 4:1000

We tend to believe what we wish to believe.
"The exemption from the test is given because the minister is worried by the "plight" of the doctors." is not true.
With all due respects, Mr. Ramakrishnan, I think you are mistaken.
But you are right when you say, "But there has to be a rule and it has to be followed"

To put things in a perspective, may I ask all of you to impassionately consider the following and remove any prejudice that you might hold?
If this is a fair request, I continue..

Wayback in the late 90's, after the breakup of the USSR, The Russian Federation emerged as the successor of all treaties and economic pacts.

India owned the USSR billions, and the treaty of friendship ratified by parliaments of both nations provided for mutual recognition of educational degrees, enabling Russian specialists to work on Nuclear, Coal, Petrochemical, Iron ore, and other Infrastructral projects of various 5 year plans.

This treaty is the basis of recognition of USSR (subsequently Russia ) awarded Medical Degrees.

This recognition cannot not be terminated without abjectly withdrawing unilaterally from the Friendship treaty and all others that have succeeded it.

However, the MCI had reserved the power to de-recognise any Institute on Individual Basis (Instead of derecognition of the whole nation's Degree's).

Untill 2001, as the Supreme Court aptly puts it, the MCI was a 'Den of Thieves'. When a new Director took over, he pushed for a blanket derecognition, but the Foreign Ministry rejected this move saying that it is difficult.

Hence, the MCI decided to bring all graduates of any WHO listed Medical School into a system of Recognition after passing a Screening test (The system modeled after the PLAB /USMLE for Foreign Medical Graduates).

But technically, there is a problem. The Institutions of Russian Federation as well as may other former USSR Countries are still 'Recognised' and included inthe Schedule II.

The Rule is that the graduates of these Institions should not be discriminated, but as long as the Insititutions are recognised by the MCI, they be awarded Registrations, abeit after a 1 year rotatory Internship.

It was the responsibility of the MCI to monitor these institutions from time to time and decide on the recognition.
But the MCI inspection teams treated the inspection tours as personal shopping sprees and the periodic reports did not record anything adverse.

Presently this issue is sub-judice, in the Supreme Court.

I can go on and on, but to end this short, I have this to say:- that this issue is not as simple as it looks, but has many complications to it.

The last thing that this issue needs is somekind of emotional elitism opposing it.

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