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akanksha
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08.15.03 (5 years ago)
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so heres another one frm my ever growing bank of confusion!
A patient was operated 2 months back and at that time a midline incision was used.Now he requires a second operation and the ideal incision to be used now is-
a)a fresh transverse incision.
b)the scar of the previous incision is excised and the same incision is used.
c)the same incision is used without excision of the old scar.
d)a paramedian incision is to b used.
now what i ve learnt frm my clinics(& of course managed to remember also!) is dat linea nigra takes arnd 6 months for remodelling.so if this is a contraindication(sort of) to operate on the same scar(jus to not interfere with the remodelling process n make the pt go for an incis. hernia later),then the choice def wud be the transverse inc.
also dat he being operated for the 2nd time & appreciating adhesions(but will significant amt. of adhesions develop in a period of 2 months?),agn transverse incision cums in mind.
i ve got another point to say why shd we use the previous incision,but then all these together will make u as confused as myself.
so tell me wat incsn u wud go in for!
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08.15.03 (5 years ago)
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dont worry aku baby,its a good sign that you are using your brains........
could you really make a huge favour..........always include the reference from where you picked up the Q unless its Ab pvt. ltd. by product
for the answer.i confess never been good at surgery........
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akanksha
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NIMHANS
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08.15.03 (5 years ago)
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doc saab,wo kya hai na ki, if all the 'SETTERS' wud hav wanted sum readymade questions, AB pvt ltd wud hav always tried to help with sum original n of course mindblowing stuff! 8)
but the prob is AB pvt ltd isnt dat famous.
this Q was asked in NIMHANS
2002.(sorry for this omission;i always forget to add the SOURCE of confusion creator!shall take care frm now onwards.)
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koi hai!
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08.18.03 (5 years ago)
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KOI HAI helllloooooooooo........!
RxPG,bruno,doc(g) and all of u there.......
wont u answer this one?
please!
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08.20.03 (5 years ago)
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A patient was operated 2 months back and at that time a midline incision was used.Now he requires a second operation and the ideal incision to be used now is-
a)a fresh transverse incision.
b)the scar of the previous incision is excised and the same incision is used.
c)the same incision is used without excision of the old scar.
d)a paramedian incision is to b used. |
1. A incision / suture made on a healing scar heals faster and heals well. It is because the factors promoting wound healing are already in the locality
2. Transverse incision is not used so commonly in surgeries nowadays.
3. I don't know how we can use the same incision without excision of previous scar for Linea Alba.
4. The Incision of choice for elective surgeries is always paramedian.
If I were the surgeon I will choose Paramedian Incision. But Sorry, I don't have any references at present, but will search and tell you people
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paramedian?
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08.20.03 (5 years ago)
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yup,Bruno u're right to say dat an incision made on healing scar wud heal faster.
but don u think dat paramedian & midline incision are essentially the same,when the area of field work is considered,as well as approach!
midline is gud bcos,u can open fast(thus used for emergencies) as u've to go thru jus three layers viz,the skin,line alba & fascia tranversalis with peritoneum.exposure is good and also as relatively avascular area of abd is cut,bleeding is less.all these makes it siutable for emergency surgeries.
and in paramedian,the diff is dat its timeconsuming(as max time goes off dividing the tendinous intersections of the rectus muscle,& retracting the muscle laterally).also dat this adds to the advantage in wound healing,as u've supported u're peritoneal sutures with intact rectus muscle above it,while closing.
this helps in an efficient wound healing(as rectus muscle is vascular and linea alba is not). 8)
so the main diff b/w these two procedures is actually in the way of opening & the resultant wound after closing. the entire effect DURING the surgery is almost the same.nahin?
while transverse incision has still the advantage of better exposure ,faster healing,and also dat its along langs lines.
but cosmetically i wont discuss much as if i put a transverse incision on this pt now,his abdomen wud appear a cross bun.
all these points r taken frm operative surgery by das.but nowhere is the ans to this question given.
dunno how far our logics goin to work.
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09.04.03 (5 years ago)
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Every thing is clear.
1>incision made on healing scar wud heal faster.
2>Midline scar is good
So here surgery was done 2 months back. So the scar is in healing progress OK
Now we can simply remove the previous scar to make it a clear cut injury . Do the surgery and stich again.
So ans>the scar of the previous incision is excised and the same incision is used.
This is my surgury brain says to me....
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09.04.03 (5 years ago)
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from what i remember from my surgery,Anaesthesia
and Gynae
OT rotations ..........take my word for it.......I ATTENDED THEM RELIGIOUSLY
i remember the surgeons cutting out the old scar and using the same midline incision ........i even checked out with the neighbouring nursing home doubling up as Obs
OT.......all the surgeons there unanimously said they would excise the old scar and use the same incision.......
ya its not as solid a reference as i always insist for but if i get the Q i'll go for it................
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02.23.04 (4 years ago)
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hi akanksha,
Its b)the scar of the previous incision is excised and the same incision is used
from my clinical exp !!!!
from my surgery internship...i remember
any way i dint get the correct reference !!
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02.23.04 (4 years ago)
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hi akanksha,
Its b)the scar of the previous incision is excised and the same incision is used
from my clinical exp !!!!
from my surgery internship...i remember
any way i dint get the correct reference !!
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