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01.06.04 (4 years ago)
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To pass MRCS
(now three parts), you must have worked in four different specialities for atleast six months. Prior to 2004, you need to work for minimum of one year in Surgery and six months in either Orthopaedics or A&E or Trauma. Out of these A&E should be from UK. To do A&E, you must pass PLAB
and get GMC Registration.
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1 ELIGIBILITY FOR THE AWARD OF THE DIPLOMA
To be eligible to obtain the Diploma of Member, all candidates must:
• possess a primary medical qualification that is acceptable to the United Kingdom General Medical
Council for full or limited registration;
• have satisfactorily completed 24 months of mandatory clinical training (or the equivalent in
approved flexible training) and the mandatory Basic Surgical Skills course;
• hold a training logbook which has been signed by the candidate’s trainers on each page;
• have been engaged in acquiring professional knowledge and training for at least 36 months since
obtaining the primary qualification required above;
• provide verification by their College Surgical Tutor of three satisfactory assessments of their
performance of approved basic surgical training posts;
• have passed all sections of the MRCS
Examination;
• have complied with all the regulations; and
• have signed a declaration of compliance with the Ordinances of the College, in the presence of a
member of College staff.
2 MANDATORY CLINICAL TRAINING
Trainees must complete a minimum of two years of clinical training in approved posts (see Section
10). Posts may be completed in any order and rotations are recommended. Rotations can last longer
than 24 months.
Overall, trainees must train in at least four separate surgical specialities. A list of suitable posts
follows, although this is not exhaustive:
general surgery
trauma and orthopaedics
accident and emergency
cardiothoracic surgery
neurosurgery
oral and maxillofacial surgery
otolaryngology
paediatric surgery
plastic surgery
urology
Posts in the following specialties approved by the appropriate Royal College:
• Posts in Gynaecology
(but not those combined with obstetrics) recognised by The Royal
College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists for the MRCOG Diploma.
• Posts in intensive therapy recognised by The Royal Colleges of Physicians or by The Royal
College of Anaesthetists.
• Full-time supernumerary appointments at hospitals in the UK with recognised posts if it is
certified that the duties are identical to those of a full-time paid recognised post, and arecompleted under full or limited registration and providing that educational approval has been
confirmed by the Professional Regulation Department.
• Posts in oral and maxillofacial surgery recognised under MRCS
regulations by the Faculty of
Dental Surgery (which may be undertaken after dental but before medical qualification).
• Posts in Ophthalmology
recognised by the Royal College of Ophthalmologists.
Other Countries
• Posts in hospitals inspected and approved for entry to the examination by:
- The Royal College of Surgeons of England
- The Royal Colleges of Surgeons of Edinburgh
- The Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons of Glasgow
- The Royal College of Surgeons in Ireland
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Evidence of satisfactory completion of these posts must be accompanied by a letter from one of
the above Colleges naming the posts and dates worked and that they are approved for the
MRCS
examination.
Attachments to basic science departments as an Anatomy
demonstrator are very helpful, particularly at
an early stage, but these cannot form part of the two-year minimum period of clinical training.
However, candidates can take the MCQ part of the examination at this stage provided they are in an
approved BST rotation.
No more than six months should be spent in one specialty. A second six months in a pure sub-specialty
of general surgery or orthopaedics may be acceptable as long as it is recognised and named as such by
the Professional Regulation Department.
Details of the mandatory training requirements can be found in The Manual of Basic Surgical Training
or ‘Blue Book’ (shortly to be replaced by the curriculum for General Professional Practice in Surgery).
For guidance on any aspect of Basic Surgical Training, candidates are advised to contact their surgical
tutor. If candidates are uncertain whether the Professional Regulation Department has approved a
post for entry to the MRCS
, they should contact the department on 020 7869 6209. If candidates are
in a post which combines two or more specialties, they should seek clarification of the recognised
specialty from the Professional Regulation Department of this College. For example a post
comprising a combination of general and vascular surgery may not be approved as a vascular
post.
Although there are no regulations concerning posts completed in addition to the mandatory clinical
training requirements, it is advised that candidates take the following approach where possible:
Candidates are advised to undertake a two- to three- year rotation which meets the training
requirements for the MRCS
(ideally including an attachment to a basic science department where
available, preferably in the first six months), followed by posts in chosen specialties. This has the
benefit of meeting the requirement for basic surgical training and providing further experience in
preparation for higher surgical training. It should be noted, however, that attachments to basic
science departments are not recognised as part of the mandatory 24 months of basic surgical training.
Candidates should note that they may have difficulty in passing the clinical section if they have not had
a vascular or orthopaedic post.
Trainee maxillofacial surgeons
Trainee maxillofacial surgeons who have a full or temporary registered dental qualification with the
UK General Dental Council may complete 12 months of oral and maxillofacial training in a post approved by the Faculty of Dental Surgery of this College, before medical qualification. They must
also complete a minimum of 12 months made up from two other specialties.
All trainees must present evidence of satisfactory completion of the required training to the
Examinations Department before the diploma may be awarded. This must comprise a signature
from the College surgical tutor to confirm that they have seen evidence of three satisfactory
assessments. |
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intercollegiate MRCS
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05.23.04 (3 years ago)
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hi all
is it true that there are a few colleges in india where MS (Gen Surg)residency for three years is equivalent to FRCS 1 that is he or she would not need to take this exam and proceed directly....if it is true does anyone know about these medical colleges or universities!
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is it true that there are a few colleges in india where MS (Gen Surg)residency for three years is equivalent to FRCS 1 that is he or she would not need to take this exam and proceed directly....if it is true does anyone know about these medical colleges or universities!
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To pass MRCS
(now three parts), you must have worked in four different specialities for atleast six months. Prior to 2004, you need to work for minimum of one year in surgery and six months in either orthopaedics or A&E or Trauma. Out of these A&E should be from UK. To do A&E, you must pass PLAB
and get GMC Registration.
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1 ELIGIBILITY FOR THE AWARD OF THE DIPLOMA
To be eligible to obtain the Diploma of Member, all candidates must:
• possess a primary medical qualification that is acceptable to the United Kingdom General Medical
I think nothing wrong with what RxPG wrote except that there`s a big difference between obtaining MRCS
diploma and sitting for MRCS
exams itself.
Council for full or limited registration;
• have satisfactorily completed 24 months of mandatory clinical training (or the equivalent in
approved flexible training) and the mandatory Basic Surgical Skills course;
• hold a training logbook which has been signed by the candidate’s trainers on each page;
• have been engaged in acquiring professional knowledge and training for at least 36 months since
obtaining the primary qualification required above;
• provide verification by their College Surgical Tutor of three satisfactory assessments of their
performance of approved basic surgical training posts;
• have passed all sections of the MRCS
Examination;
• have complied with all the regulations; and
• have signed a declaration of compliance with the Ordinances of the College, in the presence of a
member of College staff.
2 MANDATORY CLINICAL TRAINING
Trainees must complete a minimum of two years of clinical training in approved posts (see Section
10). Posts may be completed in any order and rotations are recommended. Rotations can last longer
than 24 months.
Overall, trainees must train in at least four separate surgical specialities. A list of suitable posts
follows, although this is not exhaustive:
general surgery
trauma and orthopaedics
accident and emergency
cardiothoracic surgery
neurosurgery
oral and maxillofacial surgery
otolaryngology
paediatric surgery
plastic surgery
urology
Posts in the following specialties approved by the appropriate Royal College:
• Posts in Gynaecology
(but not those combined with obstetrics) recognised by The Royal
College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists for the MRCOG Diploma.
• Posts in intensive therapy recognised by The Royal Colleges of Physicians or by The Royal
College of Anaesthetists.
• Full-time supernumerary appointments at hospitals in the UK with recognised posts if it is
certified that the duties are identical to those of a full-time paid recognised post, and arecompleted under full or limited registration and providing that educational approval has been
confirmed by the Professional Regulation Department.
• Posts in oral and maxillofacial surgery recognised under MRCS
regulations by the Faculty of
Dental surgery (which may be undertaken after dental but before medical qualification).
• Posts in Ophthalmology
recognised by the Royal College of Ophthalmologists.
Other Countries
• Posts in hospitals inspected and approved for entry to the examination by:
- The Royal College of Surgeons of England
- The Royal Colleges of Surgeons of Edinburgh
- The Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons of Glasgow
- The Royal College of Surgeons in Ireland
.
Evidence of satisfactory completion of these posts must be accompanied by a letter from one of
the above Colleges naming the posts and dates worked and that they are approved for the
MRCS
examination.
Attachments to basic science departments as an Anatomy
demonstrator are very helpful, particularly at
an early stage, but these cannot form part of the two-year minimum period of clinical training.
However, candidates can take the MCQ part of the examination at this stage provided they are in an
approved BST rotation.
No more than six months should be spent in one specialty. A second six months in a pure sub-specialty
of general surgery or orthopaedics may be acceptable as long as it is recognised and named as such by
the Professional Regulation Department.
Details of the mandatory training requirements can be found in The Manual of Basic Surgical Training
or ‘Blue Book’ (shortly to be replaced by the curriculum for General Professional Practice in surgery).
For guidance on any aspect of Basic Surgical Training, candidates are advised to contact their surgical
tutor. If candidates are uncertain whether the Professional Regulation Department has approved a
post for entry to the MRCS
, they should contact the department on 020 7869 6209. If candidates are
in a post which combines two or more specialties, they should seek clarification of the recognised
specialty from the Professional Regulation Department of this College. For example a post
comprising a combination of general and vascular surgery may not be approved as a vascular
post.
Although there are no regulations concerning posts completed in addition to the mandatory clinical
training requirements, it is advised that candidates take the following approach where possible:
Candidates are advised to undertake a two- to three- year rotation which meets the training
requirements for the MRCS
(ideally including an attachment to a basic science department where
available, preferably in the first six months), followed by posts in chosen specialties. This has the
benefit of meeting the requirement for basic surgical training and providing further experience in
preparation for higher surgical training. It should be noted, however, that attachments to basic
science departments are not recognised as part of the mandatory 24 months of basic surgical training.
Candidates should note that they may have difficulty in passing the clinical section if they have not had
a vascular or orthopaedic post.
Trainee maxillofacial surgeons
Trainee maxillofacial surgeons who have a full or temporary registered dental qualification with the
UK General Dental Council may complete 12 months of oral and maxillofacial training in a post approved by the Faculty of Dental surgery of this College, before medical qualification. They must
also complete a minimum of 12 months made up from two other specialties.
All trainees must present evidence of satisfactory completion of the required training to the
Examinations Department before the diploma may be awarded. This must comprise a signature
from the College surgical tutor to confirm that they have seen evidence of three satisfactory
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there is nothing wrong with what RxPG team has written except the difference between eligibility to obtain MRCS
diploma and eligibility to sit to any MRCS
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do I need 02 year training in UK???
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09.01.04 (3 years ago)
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I ave cleared MS( Gen Surgery) . Now , as I understand , I can sit in MRCS
part1 & 2 from India and have to go UK for part 3 . Under new regulations , do I also have to undergo 02 year of rotational posting in UK before I am eligible to sit in part 3 or do I do so directly.????
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