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Quick Scroll Tips: I worked in Australia . Any queries? 11.10.04 (3 years ago) #1

Dear friends,
It looks tht a lot of people r interstd in working in Australia …but unfortunately the fact is tht it is not very much attractive…I worked for one week in Australia in a rural area…they offerd ggod salary….but tht was really very very remote place where there is no roads from cities to tht place..contact city thru helicop…peoples are aborgins…no basic facilites….I cancelld contract went to city stayd for 6 months …now planning to write AMC …but it is a very lengthy and costly process……and i'm trying to get posting in some good areas also....if u have any doubts about working in Australia ..pls don’t hesitate to ask….?
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Quick Scroll 11.10.04 (3 years ago) #2

hi,
here i'm giving some useful info for those who wish to workInformation for Overseas Trained Doctors

Medical Registration in Australia


The registration of medical practitioners in Australia is a State responsibility and is regulated by separate legislation in each State and Territory. The Medical Boards (link to contact details) are the designated legal authorities under the relevant legislation to administer registration.

There are two major registration categories:

Registration without conditions (also known as general/full) is available to


graduates of Australian or New Zealand Medical Schools which have been accredited by the Australian Medical Council, who have completed an approved period of intern training AND


persons holding primary medical qualifications obtained overseas, who have passed the Australian Medical Council (AMC) examination and have completed a period of approved supervised training approved by a State or Territory Medical Board.

Registration with Conditions Medical practitioners (who are not eligible for registration without conditions) may be eligible for registration in one of the following categories: Postgraduate Training, Supervised Training, Teaching or Research, Public Interest/Areas of Need, Conditional (disciplinary or health conditions), Overseas Trained Specialist*
For more information on medical registration, please contact the Medical Board and/or refer to the AMC website:
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*Overseas Trained Specialist and Registration

As an alternative to sitting the AMC examination, overseas trained doctors with qualifications equivalent to Fellowship of the Royal Australian College of General Practitioners (FRACGP) or equivalent are eligible to apply for conditional registration limited to general practice. Please note that holders of the following qualifications are eligible for FRACGP ad eundum gradum (ie. without further training, examination or time requirements) whilst working in the Australian general practice setting:


the Certificate in Family Practice from the College of Family Physicians of Canada (CFPC) who have also passed both parts of the Medical Council of Canada Qualifying Examination; or


Membership of the Royal College of General Practitioners (MRCGP) and the Certificate of the Joint Committee on Postgraduate Training for General Practice (JCPTGP) UK; or


Fellowship of the Royal New Zealand College of General Practitioners (FRNZCGP).
Granting of conditional registration for general practice by the Medical Boards is dependent on individual State legislation and is not currently available in all States and Territories. Therefore, doctors should contact the relevant Medical Board before embarking on this option. Obtaining Fellowship or conditional registration for general practice does not exempt a doctor from the provider number restrictions (see below).

Provider Number Legislation and Access to Medicare Rebates

Federal legislation passed in December 1996 imposed a limitation on the availability of provider numbers permitting medical practitioners to attract Medicare benefits. Medicare is the National Health Insurance Scheme.

Section 19AA of the Health Insurance Act states that doctors who are permanent residents or citizens of Australia must meet one of the following criteria in order to be eligible to attract Medicare benefits:

The doctor was recognised as a medical practitioner under the Act. prior to 1 November 1996. This means that the doctor, before 1 November 1996:


had completed their internship or period of supervised training (for AMC purposes), and


held registration with an Australian Medical Board


The doctor is recognised under the Act as a specialist, consultant physician or general practitioner (A recognised general practitioner is either a Vocationally Registered general practitioner or a person who holds Fellowship of the RACGP.)


The doctor is in an approved placement, such as a placement for training purposes or an approved rural locum placement, and therefore holds a '3GA exemption'.


Section 19AB of the Health Insurance Act states that overseas trained doctors and former overseas medical students who are permanent residents or citizens of Australia are only eligible to attract Medicare benefits if they meet one of the following criteria:


The doctor was recognised as a medical practitioner under the Act prior to 1 January 1997. This means that the doctor was before the 1 January 1997:

1. a permanent resident or citizen of Australia , and

2. had completed their internship or period of supervised training (for AMC purposes), and

3. held registration with an Australian Medical Board


The doctor held an exemption under section 3J of the Act before 1 January 1997


The doctor made an application to the Australian Medical Council to undertake examinations (and was eligible to do so) and the application was received by the AMC prior to 1 January 1997


A period of ten years has lapsed (beginning when the doctor was first recognised as a medical practitioner under the Act).
An overseas trained doctor is any doctor who did not obtain their primary medical qualification in Australia . This includes doctors who obtained their primary medical qualification from medical schools in New Zealand . A former overseas medical student is a doctor who began studying medicine in Australia under a temporary visa, but subsequently changed visa status to become a permanent resident.

Overseas trained doctors who are permanent residents or citizens and former medical students are subject to both Section 19AA and 19AB of the Health Insurance Act.

For more information on the operation of this legislation, please contact the Commonwealth Department of Health and Aged Care and/or refer to the DHAC website:
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Please note that exemptions from this legislation are possible for doctors willing to work in an area of district workforce shortage.

Medical practitioners entering Australia on a temporary visa (Temporary Resident Doctors) must obtain a determination under Section 3J of the Health Insurance Act 1973 to be eligible to provide services which attract Medicare benefits. Again, this is usually restricted to work in an area of district workforce shortage.

The Rural Workforce Agencies may be able to help find a suitable position.

Recognition as a General Practitioner (also known as Vocational Registration or Vocational Recognition) and access to General Practitioner Attendance Items on the Medicare Benefits Schedule.

Fellowship of the RACGP is currently the only route to Recognition as a General Practitioner permitting ongoing access to the content based items (General Practitioners Attendance items) on the Medicare Benefits Schedule (higher Medicare rebates).

Alternatively doctors who provide GP services in rural and remote areas of Australia that are classified as RRMA 4-7 (Rural Remote and Metropolitan Areas 4-7) may be eligible for temporary access to the higher rebates provided they express an interest in undertaking an alternative pathway to vocational recognition. For more information on this 'Rural Other Medical Practitioners (OMPs) Program', please contact the Rural Workforce Agency in the State or Territory in which you plan to work or ring the Health Insurance Commission's hotline number 1800 667 677.

State and Territory Schemes to Recruit Overseas Trained Doctors to Rural Areas

The Australian Health Ministers' Conference on 4 August 1999 adopted a national framework to facilitate the recruitment of overseas trained doctors to work in rural areas. The Ministers agreed to the following basic model for recruitment of new overseas trained doctors to address rural general practice shortages:


Overseas trained doctors with formal postgraduate qualifications in general practice may be assessed for registration by medical boards upon advice, as an alternative to completing the AMC Examination;


Doctors registered on this basis be conditionally registered to practice as general practitioners and restricted by registration to work in rural areas of need for a minimum of five years;


Assessment processed for overseas trained GPs to be consistent with processes in specialist colleges


Doctors assessed as unlikely to achieve the FRACGP within 2 years be required to sit AMC exam;


The Commonwealth will develop processes to facilitate consideration of onshore applicants before new overseas recruitment commences.

With the introduction of this scheme to address the rural workforce shortage a National Reference Panel (NRP) was convened with membership from the RACGP and ACRRM. The NRP developed standards to ensure consistent guidelines are employed for the assessment of OTDs wishing to participate in the rural recruitment scheme. The NRP proposed classification of OTDs in one of five categories:


General practice training, postgraduate qualifications and experience equivalent to the FRACGP. (Currently FRNZCGP, holders of both the MRCGP and the Certificate of the Joint Committee on Postgraduate Training for General Practice, UK and holders of the Certificate in Family Practice from the College of Family Physicians who have successfully completed both parts of the Medical Council of Canada qualifying examination. Others are being investigated.)


GP training, postgraduate qualifications and experience, which is recognised, but not considered equivalent to FRACGP. (Includes holders of either the MRCGP or the Certificate of the Joint Committee on Postgraduate Training for General Practice, UK, Membership of the Irish College of General Practitioners, Certificate of the American Board of Family Practice, Master of Family Medicine, South Africa, Master of Prax Medicine, South Africa, Membership of the College of Family Practitioners (MFGP/MCFP), South Africa, holders of registration as a Family Physician with the Health Professions Council of South Africa and Master of Medicine (Family Medicine) from the National University of Singapore. Others are being investigated). These OTDs would be eligible for FRACGP immediately on completion of the RACGP examination, without further requirements.


GP training and postgraduate qualifications not recognised, but have more than five years of full-time GP experience in another country.


No GP training or postgraduate qualifications, but have more than five years of full-time GP experience in another country.


No GP training or postgraduate qualifications and less than five years of equivalent full-time GP experience in another country.


Medical Practitioners who fall into categories 3, 4 and 5 must approach the RACGP for approval of their general practice experience. Following assessment by the RACGP, it is the responsibility of the various State/Territory bodies implementing the recruitment schemes to determine eligibility and to interview applicants who have been matched to specific rural positions. Fellowship of the RACGP (within two years, it is unlikely that medical practitioners assessed as category 5 will be eligible for entry into a recruitment scheme.

The assessment fee is $300.00 for Members and Associates of the College, and $500.00 for non-members, effective from 1 May 2003. To join the College prior to applying for assessment of general practice time contact the RACGP State or Territory Office or the RACGP National Office if resident overseas.

Following completion of the contract and admission to Fellowship, doctors would be eligible for conditional registration limited to general practice but without geographic limitation, permanent resident status and a Medicare provider number without geographic restriction.

For further details and information on application procedures, please contact the Rural Workforce Agency in the State or Territory in which you are interested in working.


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How can I obtain medical registration to enable me to practise general practice in Australia ?

A person holding a primary medical qualification from overseas* can obtain medical registration in a number of ways. These include:

By passing the Australian Medical Council (AMC) examination and completing a period of approved supervised training approved by State or Territory Medical Board; or
By applying for specialist recognition as a general practitioner through the al">
By passing the Australian Medical Council (AMC); or

By applying for temporary medical registration to practise in an area of need.
The Medical Boards are the designated legal authorities under the relevant legislation to administer registration.

* Graduates of New Zealand Medical Schools which have been accredited by the Australian Medical Council, who have completed an approved period of intern training are eligible for full and unconditional medical registration.
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Quick Scroll 11.11.04 (3 years ago) #4

some recruitment agencies are recruiting people to Australia in area of need...the important factor is that u have to get it in good places...
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Quick Scroll info bout the recruiting agencies 11.11.04 (3 years ago) #5

hi vladimir,

thanx a lot man for such imp info on aussieland. cud u plz gimme more info bout these recruiting agencies n how to contact them. ur hlp is highly appreciated. pllz reply via this forum or mail me at my,
[snip] dot com id - xeus07.
coz of forum rules i've 2 write my email ad like this.
thanx a lot in advance.
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Quick Scroll 11.12.04 (3 years ago) #6

dear xeus,
usually all medical placemnts used to start in Australia by january last...there ll b a lot of advertisent in main national dailies..all these advr used to come by december last week....the main thing is that u have to make sure the place u r gnna work is with basic facilities..u can make it sure if u have any cntcts in Australia or thru friends....theer r some recruting agencies in dlhi..i dont know their address.. in south also some agents r there..
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Quick Scroll 11.13.04 (3 years ago) #7

mig800 wrote:
Hello Sir,
I am a doctor from India presently doing rural service for the Govt. Of Jharkhand in India for the past 1 yr.
I am an MBBS passed out in 2002 from India and i have certain doubts and queries regarding Australia .I plan to go to Australia in June and after giving my PArt 1 AMC i wonder what i can do.Is it possible for me to get a job of ANY kind in Australia that i dont have to come back to india again?
I shall immensly appreciate if u cud get in tuch with me preferably at my email address shahi underscore ameer at [snip] dot com
Thanking u in anticipation.



dear mig 800: as u have only1 year experience...u cannot work in rural area of Australia ...since they need minimum 5 year experience....and u cannot do any othersort of job if u get visa to write AMC....if u r on student visa then u can work 20 hours per week...but u have to pay a huge amount 4 fees..tht is not advisable...if any more doubts..pls dont hesitate to ask...pls write in forum
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Quick Scroll 11.13.04 (3 years ago) #8

dear xeus,
at present i 'm 1000's of KM away from home....so i dont have recruitmnt agenci address thru which i went.i'll b at home by jan second week...then 'll let u know thir address
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Quick Scroll 11.15.04 (3 years ago) #9

friends,
getting alot of queries in my messenger...but i cant open it...if u ask in forum i'll definitly answer
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Quick Scroll job position in Australia 11.18.04 (3 years ago) #10

hi sir,
i have got two years of experience post diploma in anaesthesiology in india.
i have processed through a consultancy here in india, and got a job confirmation as GENERAL PRACTITIONER ANAESTHETIST in MILTON, NEW SOUTH WALES, Australia with an attractive offer of pay.
still the processing may take another 4-6 weeks.
please help me by answering my queries-
what type of job will it be- supervised or unsupervised?
will there be any medico legal problems?is it advisable to proceed?
about the place MILTON? basic facilities?
job atmosphere and duties?
what will be the minimum period to break the contract?
please advise me reg the same.
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