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Quick Scroll half life of rbc Saturday 12th of November 2005 09:02:08 PM (4 years ago) #1

whts the half life of rbc in stored bld?? icon_question.gif icon_question.gif

if possible then reply with ref
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Quick Scroll Sunday 13th of November 2005 09:12:50 PM (4 years ago) #2

does half life means shelf life?
soory for this stupd question
i cant find specific half life of RBC

anyone with answers
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Quick Scroll Sunday 13th of November 2005 11:37:27 PM (4 years ago) #3

sorry 4 a very vague q. icon_redface.gif icon_redface.gif

to be more precise---
normal life of rbc = 120 days
whn stored bld is transfused n rbc r in circulation life = ???
i m confused b/w 90 n 60 days icon_question.gif icon_question.gif
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shelf life that is when not transfused ?? if any bdy has evr cameacross value 4 this
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Quick Scroll Re: half life of rbc Sunday 13th of November 2005 11:50:37 PM (4 years ago) #4

docsa wrote:
whts the half life of rbc in stored bld?? icon_question.gif icon_question.gif

if possible then reply with ref
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Hiya!!!
Where exactly did you find this question?
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Quick Scroll Sunday 13th of November 2005 11:55:10 PM (4 years ago) #5

In order to calculate the answer you should know the number of rbc's produced by human body in a day
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Quick Scroll Monday 14th of November 2005 04:23:28 AM (4 years ago) #6

hi actionking
this q. is givn in one of the reputed dental mcq book
10-20 q. r directly picked frm this book
un4tun8tly this book has significant wrong ans.
they mention life of transfused rbc in circulation 90 days

but in NCERT BIOLOGY its mentioned = 60 days
n it appeared as the CBSE-PMT Q. this yr.

n i ve reffered few of med. books n i cudnt find any ref. thts y i m confused
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Quick Scroll Monday 14th of November 2005 04:29:51 AM (4 years ago) #7

Actionking wrote:
In order to calculate the answer you should know the number of rbc's produced by human body in a day


hi actionking
how this can b related 2 d life of rbc in transfused bld???

actionking wrote:
know the number of rbc's produced by human body in a day??


anyways this is also a good q. which i dont kno so plz ans this also
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Quick Scroll Thursday 17th of November 2005 10:02:54 AM (4 years ago) #8

In humans let's assume that,

RBC production rate = RBC destruction rate R/day

Blood volume in a person V1/L
Blood volume taken from him/her for storage bag V2/L
Number of RBC in the human body=N
Totall amount of Rbc in the bag=n=N/V1 x V2

So, destruction rate of RBC in the bag=r
r=R/V1 x V2

Number of RBC in the bag
n/V1 x V2

Half amount of RBC in the bag n/2=N/2V1 x V2

T/ half = Half amount of RBC in the bag / r= R/V1 x V2

T/half = N/2V1 x V2 divided by R/V1 x V2

T/half = N/2 divided by R

T/half = N/2 x R

T/half = N / 2R

Now i hope you understand why production rate influences the T/half of RBC
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Quick Scroll Wednesday 8th of February 2006 11:23:44 PM (4 years ago) #9

i got ans to this finaaly.. its 60 days .. within 50-60 days transfussed RBC is sequestered by spleen
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Quick Scroll Wednesday 8th of February 2006 11:42:11 PM (4 years ago) #10

hi docsa
Firstly NCERT books are extremely reliable.So anything mentioned there is a straight answer
Secondly the concept of half life applies only to processes which :
1. progress in an exponential manner
2. the rate of progression is ALWAYS dependent upon the immediate number of participating particles
Since RBCs don't obey both of the above essential functions, the concept of half life doesn't aply to them

But of course half life applies t some other processes in the body for eg. Half life for gastric emptying is 30 minutes ( ref Laurence & Bennett pharmac )
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Quick Scroll Tuesday 2nd of October 2007 04:44:38 PM (2 years ago) #11

inspite of what seems to be an ellaborate explaination (me being poor at math didnt go through it)
the conclusion or the hypothesis is seriously flawed
thalf of any drug whether adminstered bolus(transfusion) or even as a continuous infusion(haematopoiseis) does not depend either on the dose or the rate of inf; it depends on the metabolism and excretion the kinetics (first order or else ; zero order having no definite t half)
need exp refer katzung
i jhust remember the conclusions
by the way dose or rate influences one thing the steadystate conc and the duration of action
would be glad to hear from u
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Quick Scroll Wednesday 3rd of October 2007 12:04:36 PM (2 years ago) #12

the answer of 60 days is easy to arrive at
in the packet of transfused blood if it were to be freshly collected would be destroyed in batches of 1/120every day
to be half they would need 60 days
BUT thers one catch all this assumes mechanical (non biological) precision
what of the damage that occurs during storage
what of the immune mechs (though the amount of hla expressed by the rbcs is less the wbc do good enough)
all this brings us to the probable answer of a maximum of 60 days
which would as a matter of statistics would not be anywhere close either t ot the mean median or the mode ina gaussian curve which most biologic systems seem to abide by when taken with a large sample
the botomline is
THE MAX HALFLIFE POSSIBLE( THEORETICALLY ) IS 60 BUT NOT IN ACTUALITY
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Quick Scroll Sunday 24th of February 2008 08:03:31 PM (2 years ago) #13

half life of normal rbc - 120 days
half life of transfused rbs - 60 days
half life of infant rbc - 100 days
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Quick Scroll Tuesday 22nd of April 2008 03:02:09 PM (2 years ago) #14

Shelf life :its 45 to 60 days... cud remem da ref.
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Quick Scroll Friday 15th of August 2008 10:51:58 AM (2 years ago) #15

In stored blood, RBCs have variable half live.Some are neocytes, some are aging or some are within normal life span.So, how do we know the half life of rbcs in stored blood?
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