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Quick Scroll FAQ: How to crack acid base questions? 03.11.06 (2 years ago) #1

Acid-base is not as difficult as it seems if you follow a structured approach. Using the Henderson-Hasselbalch equation: [H+]∞ P CO2/[HCO3-], it is clear that either a rise in CO2 or a fall in bicarbonate will make the blood more acidic (i.e. H+ rises or pH lowers). When you are faced with an acid-base problem, or some arterial blood gas results, follow these steps:
1. Look at the pH first and establish if there is an acidosis or an alkalosis.
2. If there is a disturbance in pH, ask yourself if it can it be explained by a change in CO2, e.g. if you have identified an acidosis, is CO2 raised? If the pH change can be explained by a corresponding change in CO2 then the disturbance is respiratory. If not, then it is a change in bicarbonate that has caused the disturbance and you are dealing with a metabolic disorder.
3. Then look at whether compensation has taken place. Compensation in respiratory disturbances is simply an attempt by the renal system to bring pH back to normal. So look at bicarbonate and using the equation above establish whether bicarbonate has moved to bring the ratio back to normal, or in the opposite direction. In a compensated respiratory acidosis, bicarbonate would also rise.
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Quick Scroll 03.25.06 (2 years ago) #2

Here's how i do it.
normal levels:
pH = 7.35 TO 7.45
pCO2 =35 TO 45
HCO3- = 22 to 28
now
1.if pH<7.35 = ACIDOSIS
if pH >7.45 =ALKALOSIS
2.In acidosis pCO2 IS INCREASED AND HCO3- IS DECREASED.
Viceversa in alkalosis.
3.now look where is the match ie:does pCO2 match or HCO3- matches with the corresponding metabolic abnormality(ie: acidosis or alkalosis)This will be the primary metabolic abnormality and the one which does not match will be the compensated one.
4.Remember pCO2 = RESPIRATORY
HCO3- = METABOLIC
5.Based on the above facts you have found out the metabolic abnormality.
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Quick Scroll 03.25.06 (2 years ago) #3

plz explain topic 3 more clearly
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Quick Scroll 03.26.06 (2 years ago) #4

tanmay_mehta wrote:
plz explain topic 3 more clearly

if pH <7.35 and 1.pCO2>45 resp. acidosis
2.HCO3-<22 METAB. ACIDOSIS
if pH >7.35 and 1.HCO3->28 metab. alkalosis
2.pCO2<35 RESP. ALKALOSIS
THIS IS WHAT I MEAN BY MATCH and this will denote the primary defect.

Now the parameter which does not match will be compensatory.
for eg:primary metab. acidosis with COMPENSATORY resp. alkalosis
pH<7.35(ACIDOSIS)
HCO3-<22(A MATCH HENCE PRIMARY DEFECT)
pCO2<35 (IN ACIDOSIS WE EXPECT IT TO BE INCREASED BUT IT IS DECREASED SO THIS IS A MISMATCH -COMPENSATORY DEFECT.pCO2 IS DECREASED IN RESP. ALKALOSIS SO THIS CHANGE DENOTES COMPENSATORY RESPIRATORY ALKALOSIS)
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Quick Scroll 03.26.06 (2 years ago) #5

hea,thanks both of u smiley24.gif
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Quick Scroll 03.26.06 (2 years ago) #6

great help zolt

good buddy

keep it up
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Quick Scroll 03.28.06 (2 years ago) #7

SO LET ME SUM UP THE WHOLE TOPIC


ACID –BASE FUNDA’S
-----Acidosis-----------------(
(Lt.side) CO2 + H2O--------( H2CO3--------( H+ + HCO3- (Rt.side)
(----Alkalosis------------------

EXPECT FOR THE COMPENSATION, THE
BASIC RULE = ACIDOSIS= DECREASED PH / INCREASE [H+] / LOSS OF HCO3-
= ALKALOSIS= INCREASED PH / DECREASED [H+] / Decreased PCO2

Lung Compensate for==
1. For Metabolic Acidosis by Decreasing PCO2 (by Hyperventilation)
(2) For Metabolic Alkalosis by Increasing PCO2 (by Hypoventilation)

Kidney Compensate for==
(1) For Respiratory Acidosis by Increasing HCO3- Reabsorption.
(2) For Respiratory Alkalosis by Decreasing HCO3- Reabsorption.

Always look for [HCO3-] / [PCO2]==

(1) Uncompensated / simple conditions==( any one of these can be the fes. But only one of these…)
= Normal/ Increase
= Normal/ Decrease
= Increase/ Normal
= Decrease/ Normal
1. Compensated conditions==
= Increase/ Increase
= Decrease/ Decrease
1. Mixed i.e. (Both Respiratory and metabolic Acidosis or Alkalosis)==
i.e. Metabolic Acidosis and Respiratory Acidosis=[HCO3-]/ PCO2== Decrease/ Increase
Metabolic Alkalosis and Respiratory Alkalosis=[HCO3-]/ PCO2== Increase/ Decrease
Things to look for (in order)=
1. PH (N=7.38-7.44)
2. PCO2 (N=35—45)
3. [HCO3-] (N=21—30)
4. [HCO3-]/ PCO2

Respiratory Acidosis=simple/uncompensated
1. PH (N=7.38-7.44) == Decrease
2. PCO2 (N=35—45)== Increase
3. [HCO3-] (N=21—30)== Normal
4. [HCO3-]/ PCO2== Normal/ Increase

Respiratory Acidosis= compensated
1. PH (N=7.38-7.44)== Normal
2. PCO2 (N=35—45)== Increase
3. [HCO3-] (N=21—30)== Increase
4. [HCO3-]/ PCO2== Increase/ Increase

Respiratory Alkalosis=simple/uncompensated
1. PH (N=7.38-7.44)== Increase
2. PCO2 (N=35—45)== Decrease
3. [HCO3-] (N=21—30)== Normal
4. [HCO3-]/ PCO2== Normal/ Decrease

Respiratory Alkalosis= compensated
1. PH (N=7.38-7.44)== Normal
2. PCO2 (N=35—45)== Decrease
3. [HCO3-] (N=21—30)== Decrease
4. [HCO3-]/ PCO2== Decrease/ Decrease

Metabolic Acidosis=simple/uncompensated
1. PH (N=7.38-7.44)== Decrease
2. PCO2 (N=35—45)== Normal
3. [HCO3-] (N=21—30)== Decrease
4. [HCO3-]/ PCO2== Decrease/ Normal

Metabolic Acidosis= compensated
1. PH (N=7.38-7.44)== Normal
2. PCO2 (N=35—45)== Decrease
3. [HCO3-] (N=21—30)== Decrease
4. [HCO3-]/ PCO2== Decrease/ Decrease

Metabolic Alkalosis=simple/uncompensated
1. PH (N=7.38-7.44)== Increase
2. PCO2 (N=35—45)== Normal
3. [HCO3-] (N=21—30)== Increase
4. [HCO3-]/ PCO2== Increase/ Normal

Metabolic Alkalosis=Compensated
1. PH (N=7.38-7.44)== Normal
2. PCO2 (N=35—45)== Increase
3. [HCO3-] (N=21—30)== Increase
4. [HCO3-]/ PCO2== Increase/ Increase
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Quick Scroll 03.31.06 (2 years ago) #8

absolutrly. Great effort to simplify this this thing.
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Quick Scroll 03.31.06 (2 years ago) #9

let's discuss causes of acidosis and alklosis......
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Quick Scroll 04.02.06 (2 years ago) #10

ok
here's the imp. one.(asked in exams)
causes of metabolic acidosis with increased anion gap:
uremia
DKA
Phenformin toxicity
Iron tablets
Lactic acidosis
Salicylate toxicity
Alchohol toxicity

with Normal anion gap:
diarrhoea
Ureterosigmoidoscopy
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