The question as to who takes he blame has come up many times now in the forum , some blame the GMC some themselves , some luck and some even our gold old RxPG.
And then some could even blame people of making profits from this surge , liek the traingin institutes that run for PLAB
.
I though I would just dwelve a bit into it and do a bit of soul searching(fault finding perhaps)if at all the Blame should be awarded to some deserving candidate.....
The NHS for sure started it, with advtss all over world , be it papers,net,tv you name(perhaps they did the same mistake they have done now , put too much power into the hands of managers).They went after it as DHONI would go after a half volley. They just forgot to mention one tiny bit.. it was the SENIOR posts which where vacant not the junior ones.
They gave the impressin that there was an oceanful of oppurtunity, when there was but a water for a swimmingpool that too the olympic type where all couldnot get into but they could come to watch by spending money for tickets, eatables etc...
THe GMC jumped in, made PLAB
1 so easily availiable the local paanwaala must have enquired if they could sell their forms for the benfit for all
Mind you the exam isnt the most diffiult in the world, like the contests they show on tv where one is expected to answer a really touch Q(?) and then sms the answer back to be eligible for the main atraction .....the draw to a Ticket for an expensive amusment park wich has just opened in th ecity.
We all obliged in trust .....for the prize was to us what candy was to a baby..
and most of us ..starngely on ethe ticket
and came here to the amusemt park, only to learn that the ticket was just for the entry , we had to pay for our rides.....
and we did what one coud tried to find someone we knew (we come from far and going back wihtout a ride would have made all the effort futile ) to help us out to get a ride .
Some found help and got a ride and more ,some didnt and went back .Those who did where iether in the que for the ride (like me ) some on the rides and some even got more than just that, they got a chance to go karting as well.
ANd suddenly the power(electricity) now gone and all caught in the darkness , those who are in the que wonder what to do go back or wait for the ride, those on he ride fear for their lives even th egkarters have to stop and think.
Perhaps my sense of humor isnt the best around , but at the moment i really am not smiling , for it seesm to be the end of a dream, one which i have had since i was a child here back in the 80's
now from story time to reality..and thoe who came befoe me 2003 onwards woudl be better placed to describe he events as they went and why we were oblivious to all that was happening and why we dd not see it coing...
Perhps we were blinded by the dream of prosperity we saw... maybe
Many poele who came here and i am one of them who knew that the situation was tough but still came for whatevr reason they had.
and a few were misguided by poeple they knew or due to the lack of info they had
.All they wanted was a better oppurtunity for thier carers,life.. is it wrong to try for one?
the GMC also tried to profit by this surge though they were more aware of the problem they were going to create
but at the same time they shouldnt stop PLAB
coz there are going to be hsmps,spouses of residents here from back home ,who might be docs and there has to be a method of accredition of their qualifications, i am sure there wil be a few more cases where the PLAB
wil help out
what the GMC should do or be made to do , by our govts or the govt here is conduct PLAB
bsically here in the uk and the frequency decreased , they should put up their website inf regardin the job scenarion wiht proper qualitative analyissi not the quntitaitve one they have at th emoment.can u believe even after this notice by the DOH there is no link or info on th egmc site abou this?
this stinks you know...this makes one think they have other intentions on their mind
but even then they cant be blamed as a whoe for the prob here, what if thier had been 10000 more jobs here?then they would have been appreciated
but then there are no jobs .
Soe how i cant think that the overseas docs should be compensated by the GOVand /or GMC,who say they didnt make a profit ,ironical to say the least.
The GMC,NHS,DOH and yes we too (by being myopic in our approach) are to share the balme for the situation we now find ourseleves in today, if at all one wants to live in the past and procratinate, or we can just take this in our stride and move on , but not wihtout a fight(protest) and show the world for what we are known perseverance and the will and skill to find a way, when there is none.
Pehaps i have been a tad too senti while writing this, but those of you who read , do add where u can , not so as much to put the balme but as to know hy we didnt see it coming and how to prevent more like us fall for the REALLY DIFFICULT sms to The wonderfu? AMUSEMENT PARK
hi,
i have voted for IMG's being responsible for what has happened, at least the most of it, if not completely. I'm also going through a very bad phase but I think rather than blaming somebody else one should realise that we ourselves are responsible for our actions.(in ignorance or in conscience or whatever). We all (or maybe only me) were in a hope that everybody will get a job sooner or later, and that hope dragged us to this point. We were looking for hope where there was none. Was that really hope or greed....too difficult to distinguish.
"HOPE IS THE QUINTESSENTIAL HUMAN DELUSION, SIMULTANEAOUSLY THE SOURCE OF HIS GREATEST STRENGTH AND HIS GREATEST WEAKNESS."
I feel every individual who finds himself affected has to blame himself.
There were enough warning and loads of information available from as early as 2003.
Nevertheless...
There were and still are many vacancies in the NHS,
There are still many UK citizens/refugees/recent immigrants who would need to take PLAB
,
The DoH has to protect it's own people's interests.
Why blame them.
Especially if we couldn't think for ourselves... why should someone else?
Not everyone who has come here are suffering. There are many who have made a great career and loads of money in this country. And most would continue to progress.
Also I am sure those that find themselves deprieved today... would eventually find a way out...
Though training may not be possible for most... Trust positions including staff grade's would continue to be there and they pay well too.
And UK is not the end of the world... nor is it the best country to train, live and work anyways.
Though training may not be possible for most... Trust positions including staff grade's would continue to be there and they pay well too.
And UK is not the end of the world... nor is it the best country to train, live and work anyways.
You have hit the nail on the head!!!
When there is no place to go, it is easy to apportion blame to anyone who even dares to mention the word PLAB.
Whatever happens between now and Aug 06, lets not forget a few facts.
For Fresh Graduates coming to the UK, the present scenario DOES NOT OFFER MUCH HOPE OF FURTHER TRAINING.
For those who have specialized, there is a limited chance OF SEEING AND LEARNING, Trust Jobs or otherwise, but little scope of FORMAL TRAINING.
For those who come here to settle, (most of us I presume), The road to the Cherished Post of Hospital Consultants is effectively closed (and I am not saying that it has been wide open before) and that is not solely because of the current changes in rules preferring UK/EU graduates.
The NHS cannot afford to hire new staff even if the need exists. The NHS is cutting down on new recruitment as well. Clearly, when the NHS Chief Quits because of he is not able to manage its debts, and Hospitals are forced to cut 1000 staff because of debts, things are not going too well. And, contrary to all the reassuring noises being made by politicians in this country, there is not a solution in sight.
As far as the present situation goes, the PFT system had two aims
1. Find people to run the day to day activities of the NHS, the carrot dangling in front of them being the prospect of training and advancement.
2. Ensuring that they did not settle in this country
Much has changed since then.
1. The UK graduate intake has increased -> and the Dept of Health does not have a clue as to where to find 2000 seats for training them once they come out of FY2 (Rather, they had a clue, but they did not let anyone know till the end)
2. MMC has changed the system of training
3. NHS is running short of cash, and is unable to create any more posts
4. There are complaints about local grads not getting jobs => Imagine another 2000 grads hitting the system( The increased intake of local grads)
Any local grad who does not get a job is in the same plight, possibly worse - with crippling loans and no one to pay their bills! And just imagine what if one of the national newspapers takes up the story of just one of them titled "Those Bloody Immigrants". I am sure the opposition will get one more stick to beat the government with, if it does not make them lose the next general election.
Read the newspapers, everyday you find news of yet another round of job cuts in the manufacturing sector. The news that foreigners are taking away the top service sector jobs as well, leaving UK grads jobless is certainly not music to the electorates ears.
Remember, these are all political decisions, taken by the government of the day. Unlike so many other nations, the electorate do not appear to have much role other than ticking the same MCQs (Ans: 1. Cons 2. Lab 3. LibDem 4. Go back to 1,2,3) every 4 years, and letting them run the country. And the people in power, naturally have to do all that they have in their power to make them tick the right box.
All too often, we are too focussed on medicine to see these realities outside. If we look at the NHS, and what is being done to set its woes right, we will be able to see where we end up in the system.
In recent times, the emphasis has been on making the NHS more like a corporation and less of a bureaucracy, and make it financially accountable. And corporate downsizing means redundancy. The days that Doctors were in shortage are far from over, but then again, merely having an MBBS degree does not guarantee you a job either.
Supermarket chains are already talking about providing care under their roof, the lucrative GP Jobs may vanish, just like your local grocer.
There is an oversupply, and to the relief of the government, they have found a group that have "no recourse to public funds", and even better, who are willing to stump up 500 quid for the honour of having those words stamped on to their passports, each time around. Easy peasy- just tell them you are not required anymore and the problem will vanish. Remember, we are dealing with the same people who have the gall to tell their electorate with a straight face that cutting 1000 jobs in a hospital will not affect patient care, and who are contemplating managing angina and asthma at home because money can be saved.
And contrary to wishful thinking, they do not believe that they have any responsibility to ensure our training. The UK government is there to protect the interests of their own citizens, no matter what they speak of equality and free trade and free movement of labour across borders.
Dear friends,these problems are not unique to UK. It is the same everywhere. It is time we woke up to these facts, and started planning for tomorrow even if it means eating the humble pie.
hi friends
i think we should blame gmc because
plab1 is very simple,any body can pass.an average candidate scores more than 140.but they keep cuttoff at 120.so the number of candidates increased.seeing that exam is very simple verybody started to take PLAB
.
there is no scoring or grading system like USMLE
,so the person taking high score and person taking low score are same.this led to increased competion.
gmc only concentrated at the income they were getting from PLAB
.if they wanted to control the number of candidates,best was to cut down at plab1 level.
dont you think so....
the only one to blame is OURSELVES
we were lured by good pay et al and the myopic vision clouded sensible judgement.
NO one ever asked for junior docs. we interpretted it that way when there was a need for senior specialists
so now no need to point fingers..
take the blame
be good and go back home
and work there til other options come up
but i voted for GMC,,anf the vote as of now is 69%
i think GMC is completely responsible, it knew from the very begining that the situation is getting worse and they shud have reduced the no. of PLAB
applicants,,by some means!
and the worse thing now is that even after knowing the situation and the DoH announcement and the PFT thing,,nothing has stopped GMC from taaking the PLAB
still!
its purely making money and nothing else
least bothered abt the future of post-plabbers.
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