Page 1 of 4: HOW TO PASS INTERCOLLEGIATE MRCS PART3 IN THE FIRST ATTEMPT

Urosurgeon · Credits: 644 My Scrapbook

DEAR FRIENDS,
I AM A UROLOGIST WITH 20YEARS OF POST QUALIFICATION EXPERIENCE IN UROLOGY(MCh -URO FROM CHENNAI).I AM WORKING IN THE Gulf .I AM 49YRS OF AGE. I RECENTLY TOOK THE PART 3 OF MRCS IN THE Gulf IN JAN 2007 AND PASSED. I DID PART 1 IN APRIL 2006 AND PART 2 IN SEPTEMBER 2006.IT WAS A DREAM RUN FOR ME. AT MY AGE I STILL COULD GO TO STUDYING BASICS AND SUCCEED.IF I CAN DO IT SO CAN YOU. REGARDING THE PART 3 EXAM OF THE EDIN COLLEGE WHICH I TOOK THERE ARE FEW ADVICES I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE TO PROSPECTIVE CANDIDATES. REGARDING ORALS - FIRST BE WELL DRESSED IN A GRAY SUIT PREFERABLY. LADIES DRESS ADEQUATELY AND NOT PROVOCATIVELY.GREET THE EXAMINERS. DO NOT SIT UNLESS ASKED TO.LOOK AT THE EXAMINERS IN THE EYE AND ANSWER.IF YOU DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER DONT WASTE TIME,SAY I DONT KNOW AND ALLOW THE EXAMINER TO PROCEED TO ANOTHER QUESTION.DO NOT LEAN ON THE TABLE.BE BOLD. DONT LOSE HEART IF YOU DO NOT DO 0NE SECTION WELL. YOUR ASSESSMENT IS INVARIABLY WRONG. iF YOU DO ALL THIS RIGHT THEN YOU STRAIGHT AWAY START WITH POSITIVE MARKS TO YOUR CREDIT. THE SUBJECT PART IS ONLY SECONDARY THOUGH IT TOO IS IMPORTANT. COMING TO THE CLINICAL EXAM-APPROACH TO PATIENT IS MOST IMPORTANT.IF YOU DO NOT GREET THE PATIENT, TAKE HIS CONSENT AND DO NOT ASK FOR A LADY CHAPERONE FOR LADY PATIENTS YOU AUTOMATICALLY FAIL REGARDLESS OF YOUR PERFORMANCE.THE EXAMINERS ARE VERY PARTICULAR ABOUT THIS. DO NOT CAUSE PAIN.IF PAIN DOES OCCUR APOLOGISE PROFUSELY TO THE PATIENT. FOLLOW CERTAIN NORMS FOR EXAMINATION OF CERTAIN CONDITIONS. ALWAYS BE GENTLE IN PALPATION.FOR THYROID CASES ALWAYS DO MOVEMENT ON DEGLUTION AFTER ASKING THE PATIENT TO TAKE WATER FIRST, HOLD AND THEN SWALLOW.THIS IS ONLY ONE SUCH EXAMPLE.EVERY CASE HAS CERTAIN METHODS OF ACCEPTED EXAMINATION. BE THOROUGH WITH THEM. IN CLINICALS NO SPECIAL CREDIT IS GIVEN FOR MANAGEMENT OF A CASE. YOUR MARKS DEPEND ON CLINICAL EXAM AND ELICITING VARIOUS SIGNS.IF YOU DO IT WELL YOU HAVE PASSED. SUBSEQUENT QUESTIONS ARE ASKED TO GIVE YOU FULL MARKS.REG COMMUNICATION SKILLS- YOU MUST HAVE A GOOD COMMAND OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE.YOU MUST HAVE AN IMAGINATIVE MIND.WHAT YOU SAY NEED NOT BE FACTS.YOU CAN FANTASIZE BUT DONT OVERDO IT.DONT STOP TALKING. IF THE ACTOR IS TALKING DO NOT INTERRUPT.GIVE A PATIENT HEARING. SOUND SYMPATHETIC. GESTURES LIKE PATTING ARE ALLOWED TO SHOW YOUR CONCERN.IF THE ACTORS KEEPS ON TALKING, POLITELY CHANGE THE TOPIC SO THAT YOU DO NOT WASTE TOO MUCH TIME.INTRODUCE YOURSELF PROPERLY.YOU NEED NOT BE AN OSCAR AWARD WINNER IN THIS PART OF THE EXAM BUT DO NOT BECOME A CLOWN. IF THE ACTOR IS PLEASED THEN YOU HAVE PASSED THIS SECTION. WELL AS YOU CAN SEE THIS EXAMINATION IS A WELL THOUGHT OUT ONE WITH A COMPLETE ASSESSMENT OF A CANDIDATE.THINK POSITIVE. DO NOT BE CARRIED AWAY BY OTHERS PERFORMANCE.KNOWLEDGE IS ESSENTIAL BUT THAT ALONE WILL NOT SECURE YOU THE MRCS . I HAVE TRIED TO VIEW THE EXAMINATION FROM ANOTHER ANGLE( MOST IMPORTANT ANGLE).SO ALL THE BEST TO ONE AND ALL.IF ANYONE NEEDS ANY FURTHER CLARIFICATION PLS LET ME KNOW.

doody21 · Credits: 215 My Scrapbook

Congratulation Sir for your success and really you worked hard.
Thanks alot for this useful information, Kindly what's your recommended books for Viva and Clinical In details please?
Thanks again.................

dr_cute · Credits: 732 My Scrapbook

sir Urosurgeon,,,ur simply great ,,,i wish that i can meet u ,,,this means that every second one should try for better future and age is not a limit,,,sir really its great pleasure for us that ppl like u r giving us good n helpful ideas,,,i really gave hope after my MRCS1 but reading ur massage again gave me power n spirit to study,,,thank you again ....Best wishes

dr_cute · Credits: 732 My Scrapbook

sir Urosurgeon,,,ur simply great ,,,i wish that i can meet u ,,,this means that every second one should try for better future and age is not a limit,,,sir really its great pleasure for us that ppl like u r giving us good n helpful ideas,,,i really gave hope after my MRCS1 but reading ur massage again gave me power n spirit to study,,,thank you again ....Best wishes

Urosurgeon · Credits: 644 My Scrapbook

REGARDING THE BOOKS TO STUDY FOR ORALS OF PART3 OF THE EXAM. I WILL TELL YOU THE BOOKS I READ. Anatomy - RJ LAST APPLIED Anatomy & MCGREGOR APPLIED Anatomy - EASY TO READ.DONT KEEP MUGGING THE ORIGIN AND INSERTION OF ALL MUSCLES, COURSES OF ALL NERVES ETC, YOU WILL CERTAINLY FORGET. CHOOSE WELL FOR EG -: UPPER LIMB,LEARN ABOUT MEDIAN, RADIAL, AND ULNAR NERVES THOROUGHLY AND THE MUSCLES EACH SUPPLY AND THEIR LESIONS.BRACHIAL PLEXUS AND LESIONS THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT.MUSCLES- KNOW WELL ABOUT MUSCLES FROM AND TO THE SCAPULA, BICEPS TRICEPS,LAT DORSI, PECTORALIS. REST OF THE MUSCLES JUST KNOW WHERE THEY ARE.KNOW CUBITAL FOSSA WELL. IT MAY BE KEPT AS A DISSECTED SPOTTER. I HAD POPLITEAL FOSSA.ALWAYS CHECK THE SIDE OF ANY SPECIMEN KEPT.ONLY THEN START DESCRIBING.TOO DETAILED Anatomy WILL ONLY CONFUSE YOU.YOU NEED TO KNOW SOMETHING OF EVERYTHING AND NOT IN DETAIL. THERE IS NO TIME IN THE EXAMINATION FOR ANY ELABORATE ANSWERS IN Anatomy . LEARN SOME IMPORTANT SURFACE MARKING LIKE FOR EXAMPLE POST TRIANGLE OF NECK, SPINAL ACCESSORY NERVE ETC.OSTEOLOGY INVARIABLY IS KEPT. KNOW TARSAL BONES, CARPAL BONES , BASE OF SKULL, SCAPULA ETC WELL. BASIC OSTEOLOGY IS ENOUGH. KNOW THE VARIOUS LANDMARKS IN THE LONG BONES AND OTHER BONES. LEARN TO DESCRIBE ANY BONE BRIEFLY. MUSCLE ATTACHMENTS ARE NOT REALLY ASKED BUT LEARN ONLY IMPORTANT AND MAIN MUSCLE ATTACHMENTS.ACTIONS OF COMMON MUSCLES MUST BE KNOWN.
REG OPERATIVE SURGERY- NO GREAT DETAIL IS ASKED. BASIC PROCEDURE IS ASKED. SO DONT READ THINGS WHICH YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN OR DO NOT UNDERSTAND. READ COMMON OPERATIONS.I WAS ASKED ABOUT DRAINAGE OF BREAST ABSCESS AND FISSURE IN ANO AND THYROID SURGERY. THE QUESTIONS WERE SUPERFICIAL. THEY DONT WAIT FOR YOU TO START DESCRIBING THE PROCEDURE. THEY ASK QUESTIONS REGARDING THE PROCEDURE . THEY EXPECT YOU TO KNOW ONLY COMMONLY DONE OPERATIONS. YOU MAY NEED TO KNOW CERTAIN APPROACHES TO VARIOUS JOINTS. LEARN ONE OF THE APPROACHES ,WELL LIKE FOR EXAMPLE POST APPROACH FOR HIP , AGAIN NOT IN DETAIL. JUST KNOW WHAT MUSCLES ARE DIVIDED ON THE WAY AND THE NERVES ENCOUNTERED AND HOW THE NERVE(SCIATIC) IS PROTECTED. NOBODY WILL ASK YOU THE COURSES OF ALL CRANIAL NERVES.THE EXAMINERS THEMSELVES WILL NOT KNOW. BUT SOME COMMONLY ASKED NERVES ARE FACIAL AND SPINAL ACCESSORY.KNOW THE EFFECTS OF INJURY TO THESE NERVES.
PASSING Anatomy IS EASY PROVIDED YOU STUDY TO THE POINT AND STUDY ONLY APPLIED Anatomy AND THAT TOO NOT IN DETAIL.
IN THIS POST I TRIED TO COVER Anatomy AND OPERATIVE SURGERY. IN MY NEXT POST I WILL DISCUSS PHYSIO AND CRITICAL CARE.

doody21 · Credits: 215 My Scrapbook

Thanks Urosugeon for your care and we are waiting more................

hauntedscientist · Credits: 2512 My Scrapbook

very nicely written sir, indeed!
well i passed PLAB came back from Uk, did my MRCS -1 last sept 2006 and wil sit for part-2 this april.
doing surgical attachmnet/training here in Gulf (honorary).

i am using these books for part-2, pls add anything else to it:-
1.intercolg revision note for MRCS -2
2.emqs- auplish
3.system modules, mcqs & emqs
4.EMQs by chan (2 buks)
5.few topics from washington manual of surgery
6.mcqs in surgery by lumley

thnks

Urosurgeon · Credits: 644 My Scrapbook

Dear Doctor,
Let me advice you on Part 2 of the MRCS . MY only advice to you is to do as many EMQ"S as possible. Pick up all the books by different authors(it does not matter who).Practice them again and again till you get it right.Studying theory rarely will be useful as answering the Emq's is a totally different ball game. Only practising makes it perfect. The reason for asking you to do lots of EMQ"S is that in the exam the questions asked will be a modification of the multitude of emq's prepared by you and sometimes if lucky the same. So practising EMQ'S will be the surest way to get through.Thats what i did. I scored 137/171(pass mark 120). I also did online EMQ's by paying money. There are many sites. Just Type EMQ'S online and browse.All the Best. Cheers!

hauntedscientist · Credits: 2512 My Scrapbook

thnks

doody21 · Credits: 215 My Scrapbook

Hi urosurgeon ,WE Are waiting you kindly to complete physio and Critical Cr with Pathology and principles of Surgery for us ,Thanks for your great work.

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