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Quick Scroll Rotation Roster or 100 point Roster - The Difference 02.21.07 (1 year ago) #1

Please understand the 100 point Roster before jumping to conclusions

This 100 point roster is the best way to implement reservations

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Now if you are Rank 2 (or even 3 or 4 or 5 or 6) in General Turn and want Paediatrics , what system is beneficial to you

Is that the 100 point roster (as proposed ) or the rotation roster (as followed in AIIMS )

If know that you will prefer no reservations at all, but what among the two systems

Please see that AIIMS notification and see all other notifications and answer

At least in this system (100 point roster), they are equating SC Rank 1 with General Rank 7

In the previous system (rotation roster) they are were equating SC Rank 1 with Open Rank 1

What happened in AIIMS will happen in KEM this year (and Grants will be free) and Grants in 2008 and KEM will be free

So if you are from Bombay and have taken Rank 6 and want MD Radio, you have to go to Delhi or take rank 6 or higher rank next year if you follow the rotation roster

The 100 point roster solves that problem superbly

This is what will happen with rotation roster
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Quick Scroll 02.21.07 (1 year ago) #2

Reservation may have its own merits and demerits, but the correct way to implement reservation is the 100 point Roster, which is being done now.

For example, if there are say, 7 seats in radiology. One seat is reserved for SC. Now only 6 seats are available for General Pool.

But in this system, if the SC Rank one takes orthopaedics , the General Rank 7 (who walks in as the 8th Candidate) can take this seat.

So NO Seats are "LOCKED"

This is the correct way of following reservation and this ensures that no seats are "wasted".....

If you Think with few situations you will understand this is the best system
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Quick Scroll 02.21.07 (1 year ago) #3

But they have done one mistake. They have announced that if SC Rank 1 does not turn up, SC Rank 2 can walk in as the 7th candidate, which I am afraid is not what is done with the Rotation Roster

if the SC Rank 1 does not turn, up, SC Rank 2 CANNOT walk in at the 7th Spot. He has to take his option at the 14th Spot only.

This is what you have to fight against. Other that that, the 100 point system is perfectly fine
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Quick Scroll 02.21.07 (1 year ago) #4

Please note that out of 100 MD Paed seats, 22.5 is going to be reserved.

If the old system, they General Category candidates can never get inside those seats, but in this system, all the seats are open.

Consider the above example

Where there are just 7 radiology seats and Rank 1 to 7 wants MD Radio...... Can the 7 Rank guy get MD Radio in the old system....

But he has a chance to get that seat in the rotation roster when SC Rank 1 takes some other seat

So in this system, Open Rank 7 gets MORE option than SC Rank 2.

In the old system, this seat will NOT be given to any General Category student. So a SC Candidate with Rank SC 10 (that might be even Open 200) get that if SC Rank 1 to 9 do not want that seat

But in the 100 point roster, there is level playing field
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Quick Scroll 02.21.07 (1 year ago) #5

You are right is saying that MD Paeds can go to a reserved candidate. But at the same time, a lot of other seats (orthopaedics at KEM) are freed up.....

If you see the whole picture, you can understand.

Any doubts, please ask and I will clarify

NB : The merits and demerits of reservation need not be discussed in this thread. Please Limit yourself to Discussing the 100 point roster system alone in this thread
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Quick Scroll 02.21.07 (1 year ago) #6

Based on the above information, please don't jump into consideration that this system is against the very spirit of reservation.

This system is also advantageous to the Candidates from Reserved Category.

Can any one tell how ????
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Quick Scroll 02.21.07 (1 year ago) #7

Bruno i have a question.

1.Say there are 100 seats in radiology.Reservation says that 21 seats are for SC/ST.

Now how are they able to make their option at rank number 7.

There is no where which is told that at rank number 7 they should be considered.

They cannot claim it becuase they are not a rank number 7 candiate.

Let them go and based on their on independent sc/st list claim that 21 seats.

2.In this roster system how do you make sure that they take seats of lower importance and of low rated colleges.
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Quick Scroll 02.21.07 (1 year ago) #8

Bruno wrote:
Please note that out of 100 MD Paed seats, 22.5 is going to be reserved.

If the old system, they General Category candidates can never get inside those seats, but in this system, all the seats are open.

Consider the above example

Where there are just 7 radiology seats and Rank 1 to 7 wants MD Radio...... Can the 7 Rank guy get MD Radio in the old system....

But he has a chance to get that seat in the rotation roster when SC Rank 1 takes some other seat

So in this system, Open Rank 7 gets MORE option than SC Rank 2.

In the old system, this seat will NOT be given to any General Category student. So a SC Candidate with Rank SC 10 (that might be even Open 200) get that if SC Rank 1 to 9 do not want that seat

But in the 100 point roster, there is level playing field



This is wrong.

Why should a sc rank 1 opt not for MD radiology?

If a sc rank 1 thinks in such a way a general merit candiate of rank 7 can also think in that way,which makee sure that rank 8 got this.


Also your point comes to the fact that if sc candiates not opt then general candiates benefit it.

what abt the other condition.

Say all Sc candiates opt for the higer graded seats which is going to happen likely.

how will you make sure that sc candiates just fill uponly 22% of radiology or another specific branch as per the roster system.

It can well exceed 22% if all of them follow the path
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Quick Scroll 02.21.07 (1 year ago) #9

i agree with the points made out by Dr Bruno.

the fight shd be against reservation itself,

and if it is implimented by this roster system only then in case of absence of any of the candidate gen/reserved the seat shd be offered to the next candidate according to the serial no.(not categorywise).

or

if they have to give specific seat at any serial no. to a fixed category then in case of absence of a gen candidate seat shd be offered to next gen only just like they are doing it for categories.so they shd ask for few extra gen candidates like they r doing it for reserved candidates.

these points shd be made in case of filling any petition.
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Quick Scroll Bruno sir i don agree with u. 02.21.07 (1 year ago) #10

u come to say tat no seat will be locked up n that is an added advantage. This is only the case with less preferred courses, less preferred colleges. the most sought after colleges r all now freely open to them.
Now take this case.
Dr.X with a rank of 80(original) wants to do MDRD. according to the previous scheme just one seat or in some colleges no seats for MDRD will be reserved for SC/ST-- net effect, he may get RD in a fairly good college(may be Grant Med College too)-- all because the seats were LOCKED and PROTECTED from not being taken by a SC. BUT now. whats his plight there is every possibility that he is gonna lose that seat and land in much lower rated college. U cant now say to him that " what DR.X what if MDRD is gone, now MD(Paeds) is open to u in more colleges!!!!!"

does it make sense?[/b]
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