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Quick Scroll Do you need it ?..... 08.01.07 (11 months ago) #1

I mentioned in my other responses that, doing well in PSM career needs to develop specialized skills e.g. knowing research methods, knowledge in epidemiology & Biostatistics , able to use ( application and interpretation) data analysis softwares ( e.g. SPSS). Is the PSM forum/RxPG could be a platform to learn some of these very basics at least at the introductory level ? I know hundreds of doctors who have a strong desire for research/PSM research but dont have enough (or very little) understanding in these fundamental subjects...folks what do you say about this..
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Quick Scroll 08.01.07 (11 months ago) #2

thats very true shuvo.....
when we do our thesis most of the times its a copy of some previuos work...........and when its something new, for the results u have to run to a statistician.......now what that person speaks is often greek to us and what we say is latin to him,then with some consensus the results are made up........the thesis done..................


I hope there will be more interest in the topic of biostats.Although it may appear dry and boring when its applied to the work u have done it seems to make sense and gives a sense of pride....(thats out of personal experience)
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Quick Scroll 08.01.07 (11 months ago) #3

thanks aap for the comment, yes knowing biostats and all the other fundamental subjects will not only give u a sense of pride....knowing these subjects r mandatory to do correct reseach. Scientists say, if u can not do the research in correct manner,u shud not do it in the first place because doing so is unethical...A faulty designed research or a faulty analysis or interpretation and conclusion which involves money, manpower, human being as the study subject.....doesnt make any sense and a breach of ethics. So if someone wants to do research, he shud do it seriously with adequate knowhow of conducting it and not just doing research for the sake of doing research....I have seen in my country,many professors of clinical disciplines just do research so that he can have some quick time cheap publications, can do some presentation in lowly profiled seminars......it just has become a fashion by the clinical professionals to turn into so called 'Researcher'....They simply employ intern doctors to collect the data from the wards, request a friend of PSM field to conduct the analysis for them and even to write the report for them (my own experience)....they almost know nothing about research nor they have time and attitude to learn it.....indeed this is utterly malpractice in light of principles of research....
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Quick Scroll 08.08.07 (11 months ago) #4

.....and quite surprisingly, the other day I learnt that a medical student who is just showing interest about learning/doing research has been suggested by a fellow doctor to do the systematic review !!!! ( that is the highest level of research).....the research is apprehended like such an easy undertaking by many doctors !
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Quick Scroll 08.10.07 (11 months ago) #5

........research seems an easy thing to do to some senior doctors, who think its quite fashionable to do 'research'....and also to some fresh new doctors who tend to do 'research' to enrich their CV very fast in pursuance to get other things, e.g. doctors wanting to go to the US.....they do not bother to think about what research actually means, what are the skills needed to do and understand research correctly. Getting prepared to do research is much more difficult than merely doing it. It takes years of religious labour to acquire necessary skills and one should ideally acquire the skills before embarking in research. Every prospective researcher should develop sound knowledge on research methodologies, Biostatistics and data analysis using statistical software...and these things are of supreme importance when somebody think of doing research. Research itself could be the ultimate satisfying career ( clinical or PSM research) for a trulely dedicated doctor as such a fresh med graduate should vision it as his definitive career option rather than using it as a conduit to get other things.....and prepare himself accordingly.
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Quick Scroll 11.09.07 (8 months ago) #6

it seems nobody is interested..3 months passed, only one responded......thats enough, me too want to close this chapter....it has to be a long wait to see that medico's really want to learn research....bye
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Quick Scroll 11.10.07 (8 months ago) #7

Before you go , what do you suggest one do to develop skills to do research ? That too for a relative fresher ??
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Quick Scroll 11.10.07 (8 months ago) #8

Dear dr_idli

Well, I already told about this in the first post in this thread.....you told about relative fresher.....obviously a relative fresher first needs to learn about some basic technical stuffs, before going to start research....its like knowing about grammer before mastering in the use of language. A relative fresher cant afford to embark in research straightway.... he needs to be prepared bare minimum before undertaking it. That why I suggested if this forum could be a useful platform to know those basics...hope u understood now.
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Quick Scroll 11.10.07 (8 months ago) #9

Thanks aap for echoing the same view of mine...thanks dr_idli for your query, although it could be asked in a more formal manner .....3 months ago I thought it would have been a wonderfully useful thread for the budding reseachers, now I realized from the feedbacks so far received that, my contributions with all my time, knowledge and experience involved, would be a futile exercise..............I quit from this thread,thanx a lot to everybody
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Quick Scroll 11.11.07 (8 months ago) #10

thanks for your prompt response shuvo , but just a last querry before you quit this thread , i know it may sound like sppon feeding , but could you suggest to me a good book i could look upon and have some idea ! Thanks in advance
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