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No OBC quota in IIMs, AIIMS : Top lawyer

K Venugopal, one of India's highly respected lawyers told [snip].com on Thursday, "According to today's judgment, the Indian Institute of Management and All India Institute of Medical Sciences will not have any reservation for Other Backward Classes."

Venugopal appeared in this landmark hearing in the Supreme Court on behalf of the Junior Doctors Association of AIIMS , New Delhi.

Explaining the reason behind it, he said, "Justices Arijit Pasayat, C K Thakker and Dalveer Bhandari has clearly said in their judgment that you ceased to be OBC when you are educated and attain graduation. Test of the OBC is social and educational backwardness. It says "and", that means if you are not educationally backward you are not OBC. The court has accepted the argument that if you are able to graduate you are not entitled to reservation."

"Not only IIMs, but even AIIMS and such other centres of higher learning will not have any OBC reservation," Venugopal added.

While putting the entire judgment in perspective Venugopal said, "This balanced judgment has scaled down the huge volume of OBC to the core level of OBC. This judgment has upheld the economic criteria of 1993 depriving large number of members of OBC from benefiting from reservation. It is a serious setback to the government who wanted to fill up prestigious institutes with OBC quotas. Today's judgment has kept graduation as the 'cut-off' point that will reduce the numbers of beneficiaries of OBC reservation."

"The 1993 criteria to decide 'creamy layer' amongst OBC section says that people with landed property, all government employees above Class II, all OBC families with monthly income of Rs 20,000 (gross annual income of Rs.2.5 lakh and above ) etc. are barred from availing any reservation from now onwards," Venugopal said.


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Quick Scroll 04.10.08 (6 months ago) #2

acc to this quota will be implemented only upto graduation level.

so no quota in post graduation
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Quick Scroll 04.10.08 (6 months ago) #3

Then, could that be also implied to SC/ ST? When they too have studied MBBS, and become graduates, why do they still get reservation in PG?
The concept is that the Caste problem in this country should be ridden off by Education... the system believes that education will teach people that every one is equal..... that's why this concept that after someone graduates, he is no longer entitled to reservation since he is no longer academically or socially backward..... or is it?
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Quick Scroll 04.10.08 (6 months ago) #5

If what u say is correct, then reservation for PG seats for SC/ST also should be removed since they too have become graduates.....
But interestingly, the very same SC/ST graduates after studying MBBS are still not able to compete with the General candidates.... SC rank 1 in All India happens to have a General Rank above 500.... How come.... After all, they have become graduates, then why cant they compete with the general candidates?
This itself leads u to think....
That becoming a graduate itself cannot be considered as a criterion for coming out of Backwardness?
The real problem has to be understood first....
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Quick Scroll 04.10.08 (6 months ago) #6

hope_pg wrote:
Then, could that be also implied to SC/ ST? When they too have studied MBBS, and become graduates, why do they still get reservation in PG?
The concept is that the Caste problem in this country should be ridden off by Education... the system believes that education will teach people that every one is equal..... that's why this concept that after someone graduates, he is no longer entitled to reservation since he is no longer academically or socially backward..... or is it?


yes this is a great victory of general category students and if obc quota is excluded at post graduation level, we can file a case 4 the same in case of sc/st. they also shud not be given benefit at post graduation level
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Quick Scroll 04.10.08 (6 months ago) #7

its good news but lets wait to see wat central govt thinks.
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Quick Scroll 04.10.08 (6 months ago) #8

it was 5 judge bench which gave this order... govt can only appeal against it to 9 judge panel. but it will not appeal against decision cos elections are approaching and govt though having lost the case is showing in media that they have won and is taking false credit. if it will appeal against the decision, media will show that govt has lost all its very cause of obc quota implementation. this will be negative 4 them. also arjun singh has said in press conference that govt will not appeal against this decision
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Quick Scroll 04.10.08 (6 months ago) #9

the power of almighty and truth is great. god will help deserving students in some way smiley24.gif

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Quick Scroll 04.10.08 (6 months ago) #10

well if that is the case then why have been the admissions to IIMs stayed ???

IIMs r also PG courses ...
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