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GinaB · Credits: 177 My Scrapbook

Hi, just wondering if anyone can give me an idea as to how much work is available to just work as a locum junior doctor (JHO or SHO) within the UK.

Im trying to decide if it's worth sitting the PLAB1 and PLAB2 if im not even going to get work as a locum.

by that time i will have done 1 year of post-graduate work (intern) in Australia , where i've trained which obviously isn't alot of experience, but im willing to work as a FY1 or FY2 anywhere in the country. I plan to work for a few months, then travel for a few months, so locum positions would be perfect, im not worried about it not being a training position

Any advice???

guardian · Credits: 3978 My Scrapbook

hi doc

if you are an australian graduate than why do u want to come to uk when people are leaving from here to go to Australia
if u r interested in doing PLAB and not committed to get training post than getting locum is purely luck
chances are not bad
now with fp its more easy to get into training post of fy1 and fy2
if you are confident that you can do PLAB uptill August 09 than fp for 09 is going to b open very soon try ur luck
a lot of imgs got fp08 this year in that case you dont need to do locum in the first place and u can do fp1&2
u have an edge that u r australina graduate and a fresh gradute so ur chances of getting fp09 are good if u pass PLAB and fp assessement which was mandatory for this year fp for every img who graduated befor july 06
if due to ur committements u dont want to do fp09 than there are lot of fy1 trust grade are turing up hopefully they will turn up next year as well and some posts turn up through out year althouhg only for 4 months or 2 months
rest u decide
good luck

tajomaro123 · Credits: 15609 My Scrapbook My Reading List 2 Books

i didnt get it , what is fp ? any difference from fy? ??i am a bit confused about that

GinaB · Credits: 177 My Scrapbook

Hi guardian, thanks very much for that - i had no idea applying for the foundation program was actually a possibility!

guardian · Credits: 3978 My Scrapbook

fp stands for foundation programme which is split in to fy1 and fy2 each for one year
fy1 is at the level of ho and fy2 sho

gina B
fp09 info is avaliable at foundation programme website
you should b eligible for the criteria set out into eligibility form to apply
go through the website u ll get all what u want
infact for fp08 there was an option for imgs graduates and old graduates
but this time its bit different but go through it
and if u need any help u can ask

wakel2000 · Credits: 1545 My Scrapbook

Foundation Programme 2009
Eligibility Criteria
I
n order to apply for the Foundation Programme 2009, prospective applicants
must:
1. expect to obtain provisional registration with the General Medical Council
(GMC) by the start of the Foundation Programme 2009;
2. not hold full registration with the GMC at the start of the Foundation
Programme 2009
3. be a UK or EEA national OR be a student of a UK medical school in their
final year of study OR have the right to work in the UK on 1 December
2008 which remains valid until the start of the Foundation Programme;
4. have the written approval of their medical school dean (or the dean’s
nominated representative or the equivalent official to the dean) to apply for
a UK Foundation Programme;
5. have a valid medical degree recognised by the GMC by the start of the
Foundation Programme;
6. be in a position to start their Foundation Programme placement in August
2009 (exact date to be agreed with the employer);
7. be fit to practise medicine safely in accordance with the GMC’s document
Good Medical Practice (2006);
8. have demonstrable skills in written and spoken English that enable
effective communication in clinical practice with patients and colleagues,
as set out in paragraph 22 of the GMC’s Good Medical Practice (2006);
9. have qualified from medical school within two years of the start of the
Foundation Programme 2009;
OR
successfully complete the UK Foundation Programme Office’s national
clinical assessment.
10. supply all relevant documents as requested

wakel2000 · Credits: 1545 My Scrapbook

Doctors from India, South Africa and other Commonwealth countries are to be barred from the NHS in an attempt to preserve health service jobs for British graduates.

For generations the health service has been sustained by immigration but yesterday the Home Office moved to end a crisis that has prevented thousands of highly trained British doctors from advancing their careers. Last year the system for selecting doctors for higher training collapsed in what was described as the greatest disaster for medical training in a generation.

The change will end a long tradition of importing doctors to the NHS. Among the 277,000 now registered with the General Medical Council, almost half got their first medical qualifications abroad — the majority from India, Pakistan, South Africa and Australia . Without them the NHS could not have run a service since the 1960s.

Since 1997, however, the number of medical school places in Britain has almost doubled. There are now enough home-grown graduates to fill training posts, reducing or eliminating the need to import doctors.

Last year many UK-trained doctors were denied initial posts, or won only short-term positions, as 10,000 overseas doctors joined the queue for 20,000 posts. The chairman of the British Medical Association had to resign after writing to The Times to defend the system of applying for training posts, in the face of widespread fury.

The Home Office announced yesterday that, from next month, doctors living outside the European Union will not be eligible to apply for posts through the Highly Skilled Migrants Programme — hitherto an open door to migrants with the right qualifications.

From April 1, the door will also be closed to migrants from India who are applying under a new points system. So-called Tier 1 migrants — those with the highest qualifications — will be barred from applying for higher medical training posts. Non-EU doctors already in Britain as Highly Skilled Migrants, or those seeking leave to remain as Tier 1 migrants, will still be free to apply.

The new rules are expected to cut the pool of potential applicants by between 3,000 and 5,000 by 2009. But the Government has admitted that this will still not be enough to ensure that all British graduates who are good enough will get posts. Between 700 and 1,100 young doctors will be denied jobs in 2009 and beyond.

So the Department of Health yesterday announced that it would consult over proposals to impose additional limits on foreign applications.

Its preferred option is to tell NHS trusts that international medical graduates should be eligible for posts only if there are no suitable applicants from Britain or the EU. That would exclude almost all of them.

An earlier attempt to implement such guidance was challenged in the courts by the British Association of Physicians of Indian Origin (BAPIO), which won a Court of Appeal ruling that it was unlawful. The department appealed to the House of Lords, which is expected to reach a decision in May.

If the Government wins, it could exclude all graduates from medical schools outside the EU from training posts with immediate effect. If it loses, it will have to find a way of implementing such guidance within the law.

The new immigration rules gained approval yesterday. Dr Ramesh Mehta, a consultant paediatrician and President of BAPIO, said: “This should have happened four years ago. We don’t have enough training posts and our UK doctors should have opportunities.”

The British Medical Association was less impressed, however. Dr Hamish Meldrum, chairman of the BMA Council, said: “This is a confusing move, which seems to achieve little apart from adding to the uncertainty for overseas doctors in the NHS.”

Matthew Jamieson-Evans, a spokesman for RemedyUK, a pressure group set up by young doctors last year, said: “They should have done this years ago. If they had done it sooner, it would have avoided a lot of trouble.”

The changes will have no effect this year, when there are expected to be at least three applicants for each training post, with as many as 20 per post for the more favoured specialities such as surgery

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