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subinho


When to start PG prep in MBBS? [#]
just started III mbbs,
do i have to start preparations for pg now
assuming yes icon_lol.gif how should i start
plz contributeeeeeeee

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suzane_lib
Aim AIPGE 2016

hey me also in 3rd yr planning 2 start pg prep can we do it together i would love 2 do it wth u plz we can plan strategy nd do it do reply me back


subinho


hi suzanne
sorry for the delay in replying
i was not able to connect for the past two days
so hw are you
i am going to give my ent oph spm exams later this year
wht abt you
started any pg prep yet


suzane_lib
Aim AIPGE 2016

i was looking 4 study partner great i got u so give me ur chat id if u have at yahoo nd tel mw wen r u online we can discuss together how 2 plan further tc nd bye


suzane_lib
Aim AIPGE 2016

i was looking 4 study partner great i got u so give me ur chat id if u have at yahoo nd tel mw wen r u online we can discuss together how 2 plan further tc nd bye


xenixmacos


III MBBS
III MBBS is a bit relaxed (but nothing like II MBBS) in that you have relatively smaller textbooks for study.
In my opinion you can use this time to understand these texts very well instead of concentrating on your PG questions, because the real stuff- you'll learn next year in greater detail (M/S/OBG/PED) so you should use this as a foundation year for the minor subjects instead of mugging up MCQ's


suzane_lib
Aim AIPGE 2016

bt can i just knw that do these small sub Carry so much waitage as that of final yr sub nd moreover is it nt ok if i start reading text 4m now so that i m able 2 solve mcq 4m next yr more efficiently


xenixmacos


can
you definitely should read the texts- what I am trying to say is- do not study it just for learning points for the MCQ. Because you might see an MCQ in oph- backreference it, and just concentrate on that aspect, omitting to read up the remaining stuff.More often than not, the trend is to draft new questions on hitherto unexplored avenues of a particular field- e.g neonatal refraction, tuberculous conjunctivitis etc- things which we usually give a cursory glance, because our seniors have told us that i"It's not in the selections" . You should read the texts thoroughly, and you have more than enough time for that. So good luck


subinho


thank you xenixm for the very valuable opinion


subinho


sorry suzanne wont be available over the net as frequently to be a study partner


suzane_lib
Aim AIPGE 2016

thanx xenimacos plz can u tel me wich books 2 read of final yr sub 4 good base and also wat bout harrison


charaka
Aim USMLE Step 2 CK

hi..even i ve just entered III mbbs....would like to join u ppl?????


suzane_lib
Aim AIPGE 2016

ya sure y nt in wich col do u study


charaka
Aim USMLE Step 2 CK

im frm psg medical college.............


xenixmacos


final year texts
heh heh- a very very good query on final year texts.

I'll tell you what all I read, but do not use this as a yardstick

1)Medicine- DO NOT try reading Harrison for your main exams- you'll just end up frustrated, and at a loss.
I read Kumar and clark for med, because I'd already read davidson during my III MBBS, and found K&C to be much more interesting. But you should take a glance at both and then decide icon_smile.gif . K&C is great on theory and systems, while Davidson has these little boxes which are points for exams. I always went for the understanding of systems rather than mugging up boxes. But hey, to each his/her own..

2)Surgery - I did read Bailey & Love, but that was during III MBBS postings, just casual reading, and also had got 'Selections' from senoirs, so used spare time to mark and highlight the book. I referenced it for final MBBS exams, but did not read all the topics again. I followed MANIPAL manual of surgery, because it has only exam oriented stuff.

3) Ortho- Hmm- I liked Ebnezar much more than Maheshwari - because ebnezar's writing style- with lots of anecdotes makes it an interesting read.

4) Obg & Gyn - well, I just read up Mudaliar& Menon, Shaw - and class notes. My class mates raved on about Dutta, but I found it a bit too huge for my liking. icon_smile.gif.

5) Paediatrics - OP Ghai HAS to be read. Take a look at Park (Community med) too, because it has the immunisation programmes, nutrition etc in detail. So reference it.


To sum it up - Final year's a big headache, and plodding through all the subjects you never thought of reading up during your earlier MBBS years, and trying to assimilate it in just one year is tough!- but it can & HAS to be done.

Your class toppers might tell you to read HARRISON's , Bailey & Love etc, you can if you want, but never make the fatal mistake of pinning your sucess on just one subject (icon_smile.gif Just MEdicine knowledge won't get you anywhere) . Remember that- what is needed is a general idea of everything, and a cool head during exams.

Select your textbooks, and stick to them. More important will be your notes- read them up thoroughly.

Staying up late nights, trying to cram up stuff, losing the 7 hours sleep you need - is madness, and taxing- leading to BURNOUT! . So be very careful of yourselves icon_smile.gif during the final year MBBS.


suzane_lib
Aim AIPGE 2016

so plz can u tel me wat acc to u shd be nd must be completed before i enter into final mbbs nd wat shd be done now in this spare time so that it will prove a great help 2 me during pg


suzane_lib
Aim AIPGE 2016

charaka can u jst tel me at wat time u r online so that we can plan out things nd start studying seriously


xenixmacos


subjects of choice
Hmm - tough question suzane, but I think that you would be looking for a definite answer instead of 'maybe this ,maybe that' so here goes

Basic sciences - I'd say Biochem and Physio MUST be read up for a good base, which will translate into easier understanding in medicine

Community medicine can be read in spare time - because it is quite a wide spectrum, and keeps getting updated.. so core chapters you can read and understand.

these three are my pick - 'to read up before' final MBBS.


suzane_lib
Aim AIPGE 2016

so then wat bout med surgery gyni if i start doing with basic sciences then i wont get time 4 med sur wich r basic sub so plz help me how 2 plan everything nd do all in proper time so tht i need 2 suffer in future plz hel[p me i really need yr help


xenixmacos


oh hey
oh- i thought you were already deep into the clinical subjects, since you've had them for 3 years now (remember when your clinics started).

You must have had departmental test series i suppose?.. did'nt you read up during that time?.. if you did- good for you, you can recall most of the topics during the next read.

If you had'nt bothered to read the subject texts once at least.. then you have hard work ahead my friend.Chuck the ideas of learning the pre & para clinicals in detail- you can do that during your house surgeoncy.

You have a year ahead in which to study loads, so better immerse yourself in that.

Read up the standard texts you have been following till now. AS far as exams are concerned - toughness rating (generally) is - 1)Medicine 2)Surgery 3)Pediatrics 4)OBG

ideally, you should set targets to finish up sections of the texts.

Medicine - altogether I think this one subject will consume most of your study time in final MBBS. read up the texts (Davidson or K&C) Do not break your head over Harrison- you can read it during internship.
Before your exams you should have completed at least 3 readings of the texts, with targets of finishing individual systems (GI/CVS etc..) in 5-7 days each. First reading can be rapid, with main emphasis on 'marking' important sections.
Second reading (after a period of 1 1/2 - 2 months should be slower with emphasis on the sections you have marked, and trying to understand and make short notes if you want.
subsequent readings are for 'recall and fortification'. No need to get freaked out if you see your room mate poring over harrison till late night\ icon_smile.gif. make up your mind to do at least 3 readings before your exams.

Surgery - another toughie, because it's just so difficult to remember all the procedures and names. But hey- here's the beauty of it- unlike medicine, surgery questions in univ. exams are usually not that broad spectrum.. give Bailey & love a glance and mark important sections, and diagrams.
Text- follow same texts which you find to be best.

Paed - Newer questions keep creeping up. So OP Ghai is a must read. Make good notes. For finals & pracs- notes wil be very very helpful, especially since OP ghai is such a dull book, and you'll probably sleep over it.

OBG- I think your lecture notes are important. and also texts- read them up, because questions are not very varied. Learn the Ca stagings -FIGO and all that..make notes and back refer.

all said and done, remember that your first goal is to pass the Final MBBS, and it's no cakewalk (esp. medicine pracs), so concentrate on your clinicals. It is ONLY if you are reasonably sure of your clinicals that you can even THINK of perusing the other subjects.

So keep on reading.

PG prep- you still have next year- don't fret. You can try answering MCQ's(clinical) but remember and ALWAYS remember- you read to LEARN- not to solve MCQs !!


suzane_lib
Aim AIPGE 2016

thanx a lot i really liked ur sugges bt i still have doubt rather idea in my mind wich i want 2 know how it sounds nd will it work or not i m thinking of finishing system by mid april i m already done with cvs rs nd git half so i want 2 know that will this work for eg. say take cvs if i start from anat dng from bdc then gng 2 its physio 4m ganong reading its patho 4m robbins the same pharmac 4m kdt then its med 4m davidon kc nd then seeing simult paeds nd surgery will this clear my concepts more or i will land myself into more trouble do help me this i started bt left in b/w becaz my senior told it is v time consuming nd nt upto mark so u plz advice me wat 2 do


xenixmacos


time factor
see dear, the scheme of studying you took up - i.e reading systemwise anatomy followed by physio etc. is ideally how medicine as a whole should be learned !
That said!- let us consider hard facts. you have around 300 days for your final exams (not counting holidays and 'lazy days')
internal exams are there, and you need to study for those, and those marks are important.
You also have the arduous task of getting the hang of systems examinations for the practicals.
This aspect is usually ignored by most of us, and we think - "ah!- practicals- hah!- only some days are required !" while in reality, i feel you should make good use of your postings now onwards- to the max, read up systems theory, see cases and prepare with exam orientation.
As far as university exams are concerned, by now, you should seriously be looking over the past few years question papers of all subjects, and getting the hang of the scheme.
You should also be making notes, and marking texts.
Your notebook of facts will be a lifesaver in your morning wards, when you might have spare time, and want to recollect, re-enforce and apply whatever you have learned.
So whatever systems you have learned- CVS/RS/GIT etc. should be in that book, and you should be glancing through it now and then.
STOP worrying about MCQs, and PG for now. As i have said earlier- use your house surgeoncy for that. Right now, give ALL the texts a read.

A very good way of studying the major subjects (Surgery & Med) would be - to integrate their reading, and forming notes
e.g - Ca Stomach - which can pop up as a case for both surg, and med - risk factors/clinical features & symptoms/staging/Diagnosis/histology/prognosis/Treatment etc. See-? you have integrated both the subjects for this one topic, and the answer can be used for both exams. So you become thorough on one hand, and on the other- you needn't spend hours trying to study differently for each subject.

Likewise pediatrics, community med (immunisation progs/nutrition etc)
OBG & Surgery
- you get the idea...

So whatever you have learnt is good and systematic.. but i would advise you to stress upon 'repetitive and comprehensive reading' instead of 'volume reading'. Because that's how you remember things.

reading up three different texts on the same thing , to boost up your confidence won't do you any good. It will be- as your senior said- time consuming, and might i add -brain consuming.

You really wont have time to read up and understand all the textbooks you mentioned for each system- you'll feel at a total loss after sometime, while your buddies will be flying through.
So- stick to core final year texts, and of the other subjects, i think physio is the only one that'll truly help you think , and reason for theory and pracs alike. Chuck the plan of reading pharma and patho and all that.
The reason why Davidson is such a fat book, is because they have integrated most of these aspects into that text you see?.. so why read more texts saying the same thing, and get confused?.
Also- davidson and K&C , being international texts, undergo frequent revisions and keep getting updated info, while indian texts have fewer revisions.

clear?


xenixmacos


time factor
see dear, the scheme of studying you took up - i.e reading systemwise anatomy followed by physio etc. is ideally how medicine as a whole should be learned !
That said!- let us consider hard facts. you have around 300 days for your final exams (not counting holidays and 'lazy days')
internal exams are there, and you need to study for those, and those marks are important.
You also have the arduous task of getting the hang of systems examinations for the practicals.
This aspect is usually ignored by most of us, and we think - "ah!- practicals- hah!- only some days are required !" while in reality, i feel you should make good use of your postings now onwards- to the max, read up systems theory, see cases and prepare with exam orientation.
As far as university exams are concerned, by now, you should seriously be looking over the past few years question papers of all subjects, and getting the hang of the scheme.
You should also be making notes, and marking texts.
Your notebook of facts will be a lifesaver in your morning wards, when you might have spare time, and want to recollect, re-enforce and apply whatever you have learned.
So whatever systems you have learned- CVS/RS/GIT etc. should be in that book, and you should be glancing through it now and then.
STOP worrying about MCQs, and PG for now. As i have said earlier- use your house surgeoncy for that. Right now, give ALL the texts a read.

A very good way of studying the major subjects (Surgery & Med) would be - to integrate their reading, and forming notes
e.g - Ca Stomach - which can pop up as a case for both surg, and med - risk factors/clinical features & symptoms/staging/Diagnosis/histology/prognosis/Treatment etc. See-? you have integrated both the subjects for this one topic, and the answer can be used for both exams. So you become thorough on one hand, and on the other- you needn't spend hours trying to study differently for each subject.

Likewise pediatrics, community med (immunisation progs/nutrition etc)
OBG & Surgery
- you get the idea...

So whatever you have learnt is good and systematic.. but i would advise you to stress upon 'repetitive and comprehensive reading' instead of 'volume reading'. Because that's how you remember things.

reading up three different texts on the same thing , to boost up your confidence won't do you any good. It will be- as your senior said- time consuming, and might i add -brain consuming.

You really wont have time to read up and understand all the textbooks you mentioned for each system- you'll feel at a total loss after sometime, while your buddies will be flying through.
So- stick to core final year texts, and of the other subjects, i think physio is the only one that'll truly help you think , and reason for theory and pracs alike. Chuck the plan of reading pharma and patho and all that.
The reason why Davidson is such a fat book, is because they have integrated most of these aspects into that text you see?.. so why read more texts saying the same thing, and get confused?.
Also- davidson and K&C , being international texts, undergo frequent revisions and keep getting updated info, while indian texts have fewer revisions.

clear?


suzane_lib
Aim AIPGE 2016

thanx yaar


rotomac
Aim NEET PG

hi


suzane_lib
Aim AIPGE 2016

hi u there


suzane_lib
Aim AIPGE 2016

wich sem r u in would like 2 join us


sunnytrustme


hi me also in 3 (1). i am not able to make proper routine .would like to study with me


sunnytrustme


in 6 sem


sunnytrustme


u r from which place?


suzane_lib
Aim AIPGE 2016

i m 4m pune wat bout u


sunnytrustme


ok what type of student u are ?how much u have read about 4 year subjects?coz i have not started yet?wil v b compatible with each other


suzane_lib
Aim AIPGE 2016

k see i nd nisha my study partner we r dne once with rs git cvs system in med sur so nw u see will u be compatible with us nd u r always welcum if u want 2 join us


menon_remo
Aim MCh

hi
hi im n 6th sem too n would lik to join u ppl.... icon_smile.gif


suzane_lib
Aim AIPGE 2016

mbbs 3rd
k ya feel sure 2 join
just tel in wich col r u in
how mch r u dne wth


menon_remo
Aim MCh

re:
Im 4m kerala n doin my MBBS n GMC, Tirunelveli. Ive done a few topics n GIT n med n sur.. Do tel which topics u r doin now n study plan.. I ll try to catch up..


suzane_lib
Aim AIPGE 2016

i have dne mch of medicine cvs git kidney rs haemat nw gng 2 start wth surgery tel me wat is ur study plan we both will make a plan together nd wrk on it


menon_remo
Aim MCh

re
ok.. No prob 4 me.. we ll do surgery.. Shall we start with GIT??


LordGarak
Aim NEET PG

hey even i want to join in ....i dont have a proper routine ......
i really want to crack aipge in the first attempt......i need a study partner
whenever ull be online please reply with the exact time ...so that we can discuss at a particular time
ill be online at 9 pm 29th may....and 10am ,5 pm,9pm on 30th may


thanks ....hoping to join ur group

do post ur timing


suzane_lib
Aim AIPGE 2016

k u r welcome i usually cum online daily by 9 or late nt after 11


LordGarak
Aim NEET PG

sorry for the late reply as there was no electricity at my place since morning .....
thanks for the acceptance in the group

so i see that there are a number of members part of this study group
1)subino
2)suzane_lib
3)menon_remo
4)sunny_trustme
5)lordgarak(myself)


i think in order to proceed systematically we should all be online at least once in 3 days at a particular time so that we can discuss our strategies and difficulties that we face in our solving of Mcq's

i will be online at 9pm tonight
if there is any problem with the timing do contact me


LordGarak
Aim NEET PG

regarding the subjects that i am currently studying are
ENT-nose
OPHT-cornea
PSM-nutrition
SURGERY-liver and gall bladder


menon_remo
Aim MCh

cant tel when il be online.. but il come mostly in 3 or 4 days..

ok.. then lets discuss liver n gallbladder 1st n surgery..catch u n a few days with highlighting points from de same..

Hope 2 c u al soon..


LordGarak
Aim NEET PG

thats great ....

i m posting my email id here:::[email protected]
so that u all can add me in ur yahoo messenger and we can c whose online and subsequently discuss


LordGarak
Aim NEET PG

its yahoooo }


LordGarak
Aim NEET PG

its yahoooo }


LordGarak
Aim NEET PG

its y_a_h_o_o


LordGarak
Aim NEET PG

i guess no one's around


LordGarak
Aim NEET PG

well if anyone's gonna be online 2mrw....catch'em at 9pm

good night


suzane_lib
Aim AIPGE 2016

he anyone there i wil also be ready with watever u plan 2 study

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