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usmle1doc
Aim USMLE Step 1

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kanwar_81 wrote:
Dear All

I am a new user at this site.please advice me on the following points

1: - Whether i can join residency in us in june 2007.

No, it is impossible cos u won't get a date fo step 2 CS now.

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3: - After how much time will I get my result.

Usually 4 weeks, but i guess there is a delay these days so maybe 6 weeks after u have taken ur exam.


AshB


usmle1doc wrote:
1. For starting residency in 2007, its necessary to have ecgmg certification (need step1,2,cs scores)by 1st september 2006 or atleast score of one of the steps to fetch interviews

icon_eek.gif One correction.. I guess we have to be ECFMG certified before joining residency. To be eligible for match we have to take Step 2 CS by about 31st Dec so that its scores r available by 20th Feb, which is d deadline for submitting all scores upto step 2 CS for match.

ECFMG certification process takes some time even after CS results on or before 20th feb but that doesn't make us ineligible for that match.


b_coli
Aim USMLE Step 1

help me,,can i choose my slot
hi friends,,i have a few ques.
1. can i choose a slot,eg.dec 2nd week, for my tep 1 exam.
2. or the usmle guys assign me a slot,eg oct(i dont want it though).
3. will i be able to submit my full application on time(till aug 31),for this step 1 2006 exam.
please friends answer to my queries., need ur help,,thanx in advance,


AshB


b_coli wrote:
hi friends,,i have a few ques.
1. can i choose a slot,eg.dec 2nd week, for my tep 1 exam.
2. or the USMLE guys assign me a slot,eg oct(i dont want it though).
3. will i be able to submit my full application on time(till aug 31),for this step 1 2006 exam.
please friends answer to my queries., need ur help,,thanx in advance

If u r sure of dec 2nd half, take Dec-Jan-Feb slot, last date for which is October 31st. U can easily complete ur application b4 that. If ur application reaches later than d last date for THAT slot, u are assigned next possible slot autmatically.

But i'd suggest do it AS SOON AS possible cos these days getting dates at prometric centres is highly difficult. ECFMG myt award u d slot but it myt not be possible to get a date at ur desired centre. So hurry up.

P.S.: @ b_coli: I understand ur concern and urgency, but please refrain from posting same thing 10 times and with inappropriate titles lest u invite wrath of RxPG team.. If its so important just take some pain and go thru d forums. If u'd had done that all the answers were already given, even in this same thread itself.


nasty
Aim Andhra Pradesh PG

last post ws 3 mts ago..cms evr1 r bzii


hey AshB..just gt thrugh dhs thread...it ws awesum dude..gud job nd dhr r many hu wud appreciate ur wrk....well just wanna ask dhs..if still v dont get residency evn aftr gud scores wat to do...marry an nri???i noe its sounds bit weird but i myself saw ppl geting married...wat say...???

anways hws ur prep going on...


med_attari
Aim USMLE Step 1

nice job , really very useful, no doubt tht this is one of the most useful thread at RXPG


AshB


nasty wrote:
well just wanna ask dhs..if still v dont get residency evn aftr gud scores wat to do...marry an nri???i noe its sounds bit weird but i myself saw ppl geting married...wat say...???

anways hws ur prep going on...

LOL.. Thats a great idea. icon_biggrin.gif Do tell me if u stumble across a nice match for me too.. icon_wink.gif icon_redface.gif

On a serious note, we can do RAships or take transitional year positions in medicine or surgery in US. Or come back to India and build up a research CV by working on some projects.

Preps is ok but slow.. But m hoping to better it.. icon_smile.gif Thanks for asking! What step r u taking?


natakshay


ashb this is really urgent buddy i m really in deep shit.i mean i wanna go for 2008 matching and so far i ve not filled any forms for mle.please do tell me wat to do. please buddy give me a timetable for the same i m really in deep shit(some personal proble) wen to fill form? pllllllllllllzzzzzzzzzzz


henry2006
Aim Canada

hi
hey guyz is it worth to take gynacology residancy in usa????can any 1 tell wat they hav 2 pay annually 4 protection from being sued???????


sati


pg or mle
well friend i wanna ask you if someone does pg here in india than u go to mle.wats harm in it


fragile_x
Aim USMLE Jobs

no harm whatsoever.

If you eat right, drive slow and exercise,you'll lead a healthy and prosperous life in all probability! icon_eek.gif


manipalguy
Aim AIIMS

hiiiii If one comes back after doing residency from US ... how much salary they are offeredhere i india in private hospitals?


AshB


natakshay wrote:
ashb this is really urgent buddy i m really in deep shit.i mean i wanna go for 2008 matching and so far i ve not filled any forms for mle.please do tell me wat to do. please buddy give me a timetable for the same i m really in deep shit(some personal proble) wen to fill form? pllllllllllllzzzzzzzzzzz

Sorry for late reply.. Very busy these days.

1. Procure all d material
2. Start studying IMMEDIATELY.
3. Register for step 1 immediately
4. U can take ur Step 1 exam earliest by April i guess cos of availability of dates etc after u complete ur application. N if u work hard u can prepare by then too.
5. Step2Ck after about 12 weeks, CS within 1 month makes u ready for 2008 match in time. icon_smile.gif

Vary schedule based on ur level of preps, dnt compromise ur scores in a hurry.

Good luck! icon_smile.gif


AshB


manipalguy wrote:
hiiiii If one comes back after doing residency from US ... how much salary they are offeredhere i india in private hospitals?

I don't have any factual info but i have heard of such docs earning average 2-7 lakhs on percentage basis. But most were either surgeons or superspecialists. It varies greatly with ur branch, parent institute, publications n post residency experience.


AshB


Re: pg or mle
sati wrote:
well friend i wanna ask you if someone does pg here in india than u go to mle.wats harm in it


fragile_x wrote:
no harm whatsoever.

If you eat right, drive slow and exercise,you'll lead a healthy and prosperous life in all probability!

LOL.. icon_lol.gif

Its a big n complicated question, see related discussions in forums for various views. But in general cons are more time consuming, decreased opportunities (cos undoubtedly 'most' programs prefer Recent medical Graduates). Post-PG average scores are also said to be lesser than fresh grads.


AshB


Re: hi
henry2006 wrote:
hey guyz is it worth to take gynacology residancy in usa????can any 1 tell wat they hav 2 pay annually 4 protection from being sued???????

Obviously its worth if u like it. But it doesn't seem to be one of the easy ones to get.


natakshay


great thanks ASHB great thanks from my heart.


lovebug
Aim USMLE Step 2 CK

hi friends
I have done MPH in health care administration from a US university. Will it help me in securing residency?


AshB


lovebug wrote:
hi friends
I have done MPH in health care administration from a US university. Will it help me in securing residency?

it will, though not in a big way. But it does add to ur CV and also can fetch u LORs from ur medico profs at the US university, which will be valuable.


meghna_mbbs
Aim USMLE Step 1

hi,

i have completed my step 1 and now i m in usa preparing for step 2.

i just want to ask a person with a green card holder like me will have to give toefl examination or not for admission in mph? what are the other things required for persons like me for admissions in mph.


how about doing mph and side by side preparing for the usmle because getting residency is no guaraneeas everyone says ? because i will be done with all the steps by may.


lovebug
Aim USMLE Step 2 CK

Thank you Ash B. I forgot to add in the last mail that while doing the MPH, i worked as a research assistant and published 2 papers in journals. But the papers were related to health care administration and were not directly linked with frontline medical research. Do you think that those health care administration papers will help in my cause of securing a residency position. Thanks in advance.


AshB


lovebug wrote:
Thank you Ash B. I forgot to add in the last mail that while doing the MPH, i worked as a research assistant and published 2 papers in journals. But the papers were related to health care administration and were not directly linked with frontline medical research. Do you think that those health care administration papers will help in my cause of securing a residency position. Thanks in advance.

I think, it'll still help, tho indirectly cos its not direct front line medical research. By what i've gathered, if u'll be able to defend ur change of track convincingly, u could make it more effective.


anand_padhu
Aim USMLE Step 1

Hi ashB
thanks a lot
carry on the gd work
ur helping many
take care


dipsite
Aim USMLE Step 1

Query To AshB
Hi AshB
I am reading your posts past few months.You are really impressive,experienced joe.Please answer my one query.I have made my mind that i am gonna prepare for MLE.I am currently in final year of MBBS.
My query is:-My batchmates who made their mind in first year regarding MLE have done various sorts of research (ICMR etc.),conferences,seminars.I have come to know that these stuffs carry some value during interviews.The thing that is haunting me is that i have not done any sort of research work till date.Even i may not be able to do it in my final year.What is your opinion?Should i take up a research or research carries little value?I can do research but for that i will have to work Harder..

The number of MLE and GRE takers are increasing by leaps and bounds.So after MLE scores deciding factor could be Research.
Waiting for a prompt and beneficial reply.

Warm Regards
DiPsIte.


lovebug
Aim USMLE Step 2 CK

thank you Ash B. I really apreciate your help.


dipsite
Aim USMLE Step 1

ASH B:- Are you there?
Hi Ash B
I have posted a query in the thread "All we need to know about MLE or AIPG".Please reply as soon as possible.

Warm Regards
DiPsItE.


AshB


Re: ASH B:- Are you there?
dipsite wrote:
Hi Ash B
I have posted a query in the thread "All we need to know about MLE or AIPG".Please reply as soon as possible.

Warm Regards
DiPsItE.

Sorry for late reply, i'm a bit busy these days.


jaydoc
Aim USMLE Step 1

Re: pg or mle
AshB wrote:
sati wrote:
well friend i wanna ask you if someone does pg here in india than u go to mle.wats harm in it


fragile_x wrote:
no harm whatsoever.

If you eat right, drive slow and exercise,you'll lead a healthy and prosperous life in all probability!

LOL.. icon_lol.gif

Its a big n complicated question, see related discussions in forums for various views. But in general cons are more time consuming, decreased opportunities (cos undoubtedly 'most' programs prefer Recent medical Graduates). Post-PG average scores are also said to be lesser than fresh grads.





well ashB, does 4 years after graduation mean you have less chances of getting into a residency...? even if your scores are 90 plus in all steps...? Even if you have been finished residency in those 4 years in that specialty you want to get into...? won't it be counted as work experience at least...?


denzel
Aim USMLE Jobs

WHAT IS THIS THING ABOUT INTERVIEWS WITH THE PROGRAMS IN USA? WHEN DO THEY APPEAR IN THE COURSE OF EVENTS? CANT ONE DO WITHOUT THEM AND GET SELECTED THROUGH MATCH OR PREMATCH OR SCRAMBLE ONLY?


ambitious
Aim NEET PG

hi friends... icon_lol.gif
i finished my internship last year march 2006,.im a hard worker.but i ve not much of idea about mle, i can manage to join kaplan.Right now i have taken up aipgee after one year prepn.im awaiting my results.i wish to do usmle simultaneously along with my pg here , md medicine.
i want to settle in us with a h1b visa . so plan to finish step123 before i finish pg here.what are my chances ...? is it posible to get residency there in us after 4yrs of graduation..?
pls do help me frends.!
Thanx much in advance. icon_smile.gif


fragile_x
Aim USMLE Jobs

wats the use of doing PG here if u surely want to go to US. Apart from acting as a fall-back plan.


ambitious
Aim NEET PG

hi.... icon_smile.gif i had earlier planned to take step1, but fell into aipgee prepn, dueto various reasons though my aim was to do mle.

i need to knw if its possible/difficult to get internal medicine after 4 years of finishing mbbs. wud the 3 yrs of pg here be considered as clinical experience..
will the time gap of 4 yrs be a disadvantage to get into good programs...?

i ve planned to start my prepn from march n take step1 in oct.


fragile_x
Aim USMLE Jobs

okie,here's the deal.
some programs like to have candidates who have already done MD in their home countires.
But others prefer recent graduates.
So, overall, its evens out and ur chances would be comparable to a recent grad in my opinion.
That is, depending upon how tough things become in another 4 yrs.


ambitious
Aim NEET PG

hi thanx alot...........
ive pland to finish step3 before dec2008, so that i wud be able to get into residency by the time i finish my md here.i ve read standard books and ve my basics right, with one yr prepn for aipgee.
i need to get a score of 95+ in step1 to compensate for the delay, hope 6 months prepn wud be sufficient.
have decided to jooin kaplan in march, vil post more doubts soon....!!!!!!!!


fragile_x
Aim USMLE Jobs

ok,no prob


ambitious
Aim NEET PG

hi all....!!! icon_smile.gif
im in the process of acquiring knowledge about mle... residecncy in internal medicine, post pg advantages ??/ disadvan .... research programss...
paper publication etc..
found all the posts usefull for many of my longterm queries..!!!!
someone pls do explain a litle more abt research experience tats needed to get into gud programs... icon_smile.gif


mudugal
Aim USMLE Step 1

hey busy doc. icon_biggrin.gif i have read ur bbbiiiggggg note of information written abt doc life in us (though i dozed off in between LOL) i just wanted to know if the condition is still the same for docs or its getting same like that in uk icon_twisted.gif
hope u find time to reply me
waiting eagerly icon_question.gif


AshB


mudugal wrote:
hey busy doc. icon_biggrin.gif i have read ur bbbiiiggggg note of information written abt doc life in us (though i dozed off in between LOL) i just wanted to know if the condition is still the same for docs or its getting same like that in uk icon_twisted.gif
hope u find time to reply me
waiting eagerly icon_question.gif

Though its getting tougher, but its still much better than UK.


AshB


Re: pg or mle
jaydoc wrote:
AshB wrote:
sati wrote:
well friend i wanna ask you if someone does pg here in india than u go to mle.wats harm in it


fragile_x wrote:
no harm whatsoever.

If you eat right, drive slow and exercise,you'll lead a healthy and prosperous life in all probability!

LOL.. icon_lol.gif

Its a big n complicated question, see related discussions in forums for various views. But in general cons are more time consuming, decreased opportunities (cos undoubtedly 'most' programs prefer Recent medical Graduates). Post-PG average scores are also said to be lesser than fresh grads.

well ashB, does 4 years after graduation mean you have less chances of getting into a residency...? even if your scores are 90 plus in all steps...? Even if you have been finished residency in those 4 years in that specialty you want to get into...? won't it be counted as work experience at least...?

See jaydoc, as fragile_x has already told u, there's no fixed funda that works for USMLE. There r programs that want Recent graduates only while there r others that prefer some1 with proper experience as in MD.

As far as ur case is concerned, don't look at d programs of the former type,concentrate on d latter. General rules for all USMLE takers wud apply to u too. Good scores, publications, presentations, USCE, LORs.. get everything u can. MD in d same branch as u r applying is good. Lots of people now go for US after their PG so remind urself that if they can y can't YOU!

Good luck 2 u.. icon_smile.gif


asarambapu
Aim AIIMS

thanks ashb for this info
well is it feasible for me to give a try?
i am 2003 pass out
tried twice for mba here . above 99.5 percentile in CAT but didnt get the best iims, so trying for pg at last
its been 1.5 years i am preparing and now i am seeing disillusioned MDs trying for mle.
tell me buddy what are the chances for a guy with a 4 year gap to get a residency presuming i get a good percentile?
plz answer it as i have to choose between continuing the pg prep. or joining the govt. job im getting & think about mle


AshB


asarambapu wrote:
thanks ashb for this info
well is it feasible for me to give a try?
i am 2003 pass out
tried twice for <a href="http://www.rxpgonline.com/forum118.html">MBA</a>
here . above 99.5 percentile in CAT but didnt get the best iims, so trying for pg at last
its been 1.5 years i am preparing and now i am seeing disillusioned MDs trying for mle.
tell me buddy what are the chances for a guy with a 4 year gap to get a residency presuming i get a good percentile?
plz answer it as i have to choose between continuing the pg prep. or joining the govt. job im getting & think about mle

If u can get a good percentile n sumhow explain d gap of 4 years at d interviews or show some work experience (medical) during that period, u can have a decent chance..

See this recent discussion also for points related to gap in MLE n graduation..
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katta
Aim NEET PG

dielama about us residency?
thanks man , u kept very good information,now my frnds told america is flooded with img doctors, now getting visa is easy, but getting residensy is takes years..... i didnt get aipge.... now i m planing to prepare for mle.please tell me how many years we have 2 wait geting residensy...please remind16000uk doctors are returning 2 india.........tell me if u know present situation in usa,people said usa will saturate with doctors with in two years........give me reply


AshB


Re: dielama about us residency?
katta wrote:
thanks man , u kept very good information,now my frnds told america is flooded with img doctors, now getting visa is easy, but getting residensy is takes years..... i didnt get <a href="http://www.rxpgonline.com/forum2.html">AIPGE</a>
.... now i m planing to prepare for mle.please tell me how many years we have 2 wait geting residensy...please remind16000uk doctors are returning 2 india.........tell me if u know present situation in usa,people said usa will saturate with doctors with in two years........give me reply

If u hurry u could make it to 2008 match assuming u r well prepared for AIPGE. There is not doubt USA situation is becoming more competitive than it is already.. Don't think it'll ever become UK but more people will have to take >1 attempt to get a residency in d coming years.

Read d hot topics in USMLE forums for more views n details. Start from..
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Cricketer
Aim USMLE Step 1

Good job
Nice work AshB, Thanks. I'm sure it must have taken you a few hours to write that! I think its getting tougher to get a residency these days. I'll have to work hard.


Cricketer
Aim USMLE Step 1

Suppose we don't get a residency in our first attempt. Does that decrease our chances during next match, say they give us points for being more experienced at teh match! icon_wink.gif or is it considered a black spot on our CV?


AshB


Cricketer wrote:
Suppose we don't get a residency in our first attempt. Does that decrease our chances during next match, say they give us points for being more experienced at teh match! icon_wink.gif or is it considered a black spot on our CV?

LOL.. No the match experience doesn't count but if you gather some USCE or US research experience during that period, that'll certainly add to your CV.


saira


Hi!I have been preparing for pg entrance for two years now .I had made this choice due to certain unavoidable reasons.But taking USMLE was always on my mind.But now starting for usmle will take 2 yrs from now.But then studying for pg entrance is also out of compulsion.What should i do icon_question.gif icon_cool.gif


AshB


saira wrote:
Hi!I have been preparing for pg entrance for two years now .I had made this choice due to certain unavoidable reasons.But taking USMLE was always on my mind.But now starting for USMLE will take 2 yrs from now.But then studying for pg entrance is also out of compulsion.What should i do icon_question.gif icon_cool.gif

If you don't have a choice out of PG entrance, then why are you considering USMLE? icon_eek.gif

If i were you and USMLE is really what i wanted to do, 2 years won't matter too much. But then these are individual decisions and tough decisions require a lot of resilience. More than the time its the great stress that comes with MLE, that should be your consideration too.


saira


Now i have a choice for USMLE but time is a big factor and so is the stress involved.Thanks AshB for advice. icon_cool.gif

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