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Siyaa


and another thing dear moderators ,
1)can we keep sequence as step 2 ck, step 1 , step 2cs ,
2)is there fixed time limit required between step 2 ck and 2cs ,
3)and cant or can we keep step 1 inbetween the two.

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aj
Aim NEET PG

STEP 1 APPLICATION - PLEASE HELP
Hello EVERYONE,
i am desperately looking for some information reagarding application to step 1.

DO I NEED THE PRINCIPAL/ DEANS SIGNATURE ANYWHERE?(FORM 186- IDENTIFICATION DOESNT ESSENTIALLY NEED IT,A NOTARY CAN DO)
wHAT EXACTLY IS FORM 345- MEDICAL SCHOOL RELEASE REQUEST? I CANT UNDERSTAND MUCH FROM THE FORMAT GIVEN.
TO BE PRECISE DO I NEED PRINCI'S SIGN THERE?


I HAVE 1. MEDICAL SCHOOL TRANSCRIPT
2. MEDICAL SCHOOL DIPLOMA
3. PHOTOGRAPH
4. ACCESSIBILITY TO NOTARY,PRINTER,CREDIT CARD,COURIER

WOULD I NEED ANYTHING ELSE TO APPLY FOR STEP-1?

I DONT WANT TO START THE FORM AND GET STUCK IN BETWEEN. SO PLEASE ALL U PEOPLE WHO HAVE APPLIED, PLEASE HELP.
I AM APPLYING USING THE 2007 APPLICATION MATERIAL, AND I DONT HAVE MUCH TIME.

PLEASE REPLY BACK URGENTLY .
THANKS A MILLION


AshB


ADeity wrote:
Hey Moderator.... icon_wink.gif solve a problem for me???????? lol...how have u been? hey..help me out..m in deep trouble.... i m planning to give my step 1 in feb next yr..do u think that i ll then get sufficient time for step 2 ck..whats thew deadline for getting ur scores, when we need to apply in september..huh???? do answer, Ash... n tell me how r ur studies going?????????? Full steam ahead? how has rx been without me...dull? ( lol...) icon_wink.gif

Hey Adeity.. LONG time no see!!!! How're u doing yaar??
And stop calling me moderator! icon_smile.gif

Yes i think, time would be enough but u'll have plan properly. Application process starts on 1st September but goes for long time after that. U can apply with even score awaited so even if u take all ur steps, stay by aug end, u'll be in good time for match.

My studies r on d rocks! icon_sad.gif But i'm trying hard.. icon_smile.gif


AshB


Siyaa wrote:
and another thing dear moderators ,
1)can we keep sequence as step 2 ck, step 1 , step 2cs

U can take it in any sequence, ECFMG has no objections.

Siyaa wrote:
2)is there fixed time limit required between step 2 ck and 2cs

No, as far as i know there is none.

Siyaa wrote:
3)and cant or can we keep step 1 inbetween the two.

Yes, u can take them in any sequence. Though taking step 2 CS early might not meet approval of visa officer at times.. icon_smile.gif


doc_g
Aim Surgery

which way is better???
give ur step1 in 3rd yr and 2 ck cs n 3 (for h1b visa) for internship....
OR
all three steps during internship???
(i thought the 1st one is better from what i read on the forums....but some ppl on rxpg advice the latter)
WANT SOME MORE OPINIONS.....
PLS HELP MODERATORS,.............


AshB


doc_g wrote:
which way is better???
give ur step1 in 3rd yr and 2 ck cs n 3 (for h1b visa) for internship....
OR
all three steps during internship???
(i thought the 1st one is better from what i read on the forums....but some ppl on rxpg advice the latter)
WANT SOME MORE OPINIONS.....
PLS HELP MODERATORS,.............

Waise discussed many times but still i'll repeat my views..

Taking steps after MBBS will MOST of the times fetch u better marks than during MBBS.

The only advantage of taking step 1 during or after 2nd MBBS is that u save time after MBBS, can finish off steps a few months earlier which might allow u to save a year.

Otherwise chances of performing better is ALWAYS higher after MBBS cos Step 1 is highly clinically oriented. Those who have gotten good marks after taking step1 during MBBS work hard on clinical vignettes n questions.

Now u gotta decide if u can raise ur clinical problem solving enuf to fetch u high scores on step1. In that case u might save a year. But if not, u might compromise ur scores.

Do meet some1 personally, who took step1 during MBBS, b4 deciding cos they can tell u d ground realities.

Thats my 2 cents.. icon_smile.gif


jaissy


Hi Ash B I think u r d right person to help me . I have finished my MD in gyn obs 2 yrs ago . i want to go 4 usmle . I am graduated in the year 2000 . I heard that 5 yrs after graduation it is very difficult to get a residency . is it true . what r my chances of getting residency in gyn obs . I am in big dilemma now . plea........se help me please. thanks in advance.


AshB


Re: STEP 1 APPLICATION - PLEASE HELP
aj wrote:
Hello EVERYONE,
i am desperately looking for some information reagarding application to step 1.

Please read d forum at d following link
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It has a very good discussion about all aspects of application process.


ADeity
Aim USMLE Step 1

hey..Ash...ok.. the moderator stuff is off for now... thanx for the help dude.. n as for gre..i thought about ur advise, n chucked the idea outta my mind.. now plan to take step 1 in jan end with one month of repeat of dec posting..that'll give me ample time..n help me space my steps well.. right? thanx for the help.. waise if i get into another problem i know u r there to help me out.. so stay cool.. work hard.. n hey.. keep d msgs coming.. icon_smile.gif


AshB


jaissy wrote:
I have finished my MD in gyn Obs 2 yrs ago . i want to go 4 USMLE . I am graduated in the year 2000 . I heard that 5 yrs after graduation it is very difficult to get a residency . is it true . what r my chances of getting residency in gyn Obs . I am in big dilemma now . plea........se help me please. thanks in advance.

Yes its a bit difficult to get a residency few years after graduation. But that doesn't mean its impossible. Its just a bit tougher. So what u can do is add some other positives to ur CV..

U just have to remember that u gotta get good scores and if u have some publications under ur belt, that wud be a huge advantage. Get some USCE, US LORs and u'll have a decent chance of getting a residency almost at par with recent graduates, given that luck and similar factors don't go against u.


AshB


ADeity wrote:
hey..Ash...ok.. the moderator stuff is off for now...

Thank god!! icon_lol.gif

ADeity wrote:
now plan to take step 1 in jan end

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February ka kya hoga!!! LOL icon_wink.gif

ADeity wrote:
thanx for the help.. waise if i get into another problem i know u r there to help me out.. so stay cool.. work hard.. n hey.. keep d msgs coming.. icon_smile.gif

smiley24.gif anytime ! icon_smile.gif


AshB


jaissy wrote:
thanks a million ash . just one more doubt what is USCE

USCE=US Clinical Experience
Kindly read d HOT topics in MLE forum and d major articles. All such questions have been dealt in detail there.


jaissy


thanks again


mahu03
Aim USMLE Step 1

regarding the article on the step by step process for USMLE
dear docjyo

this is concerning your article on USMLE... you had mentiomed that after applying for everything, we should get it sealed by the dean of the medical college... is that really required or is the seal of any government official enough??? its been quite sometime since i left my medical college and currently im not working anywhere... Please snet me a reply at the earliest..
thank you
mahu03


AshB


Re: regarding the article on the step by step process for &l
mahu03 wrote:
dear docjyo

this is concerning your article on <a href="http://www.rxpgonline.com/forum5.html">USMLE</a>
... you had mentiomed that after applying for everything, we should get it sealed by the dean of the medical college... is that really required or is the seal of any government official enough??? its been quite sometime since i left my medical college and currently im not working anywhere... Please snet me a reply at the earliest..
thank you
mahu03

U have to get Form 186 signed by EITHER Dean or a Notary public, not just any government official.


arundhutik
Aim USMLE Step 1

hi, very useful thread......can u please tell me, which que bank to follow for step 1? and is verification of medical degrees from respective colleges needed prior to step1 or after the csa thing?hoping an early reply


AshB


arundhutik wrote:
hi, very useful thread......can u please tell me, which que bank to follow for step 1?

Kaplan Qbook and Qbank are undisputedly good. Usmle world is also gaining popularity these days. Others r NMS, BSS etc.

arundhutik wrote:
and is verification of medical degrees from respective colleges needed prior to step1 or after the csa thing?hoping an early reply

When u apply and send form 344, 345 they automatically start the process of verification of ur medical degrees. But that doesn't hinder ur steps, Verification has to be completed b4 u r awarded ECFMG certification.


jaissy


Finally I made up my mind thanks to rxpg, and started preparing 4 mle from yesterday. is there sufficient time for me to make for 2008 match . if so when should i take each step if i go in order of step 1 , 2ck &2cs.
thanks in advance


arundhutik
Aim USMLE Step 1

received your reply to my query.thanks a lot. can u please tell me how many months approx does one take to prepare for step 1? how many months prior to applying for the exam should one apply. from where do i get the dates for the exam?
thanks


AshB


jaissy wrote:
Finally I made up my mind thanks to rxpg, and started preparing 4 mle from yesterday.

Good luck in ur endeavours! icon_smile.gif

jaissy wrote:
is there sufficient time for me to make for 2008 match . if so when should i take each step if i go in order of step 1 , 2ck &2cs.

arundhutik wrote:
can u please tell me how many months approx does one take to prepare for step 1?

Usually with intensive preps 5-6 months are more than enough. By intensive preps i mean an avg of 7-8 hrs a day. Please also refer the following link for such info:
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But remember these r pretty subjective calculations. Take d exam when u r urself confident enuf.

arundhutik wrote:
how many months prior to applying for the exam should one apply. from where do i get the dates for the exam?

arundhutik wrote:
when are the step 1 exams held generally........thanks. u ve really very helpful.

Apply minimum 3 months before exam, ECFMG doesn't accept the application 6 months before d exam.

Exam takes place on all days of d year except national holidays and first 15 days of the year. For complete info on USMLE exams visit their official website ECFMG.org


chinar


I am preparing for mle . can i and my wife survive in US with the salary of a resident .


diiks
Aim NEET PG

USMLE now or later???
hi,
i've just done my mbbs from india. i want to pursue neurology. what would be the best course of action for me now? is it possible to go for further studies in the US after doing MD Medicine here in india? do institutes there accept our qualification or do we have to compulsorily do residency there to qualify for a fellowship?

thx,


AshB


chinar wrote:
I am preparing for mle . can i and my wife survive in US with the salary of a resident .

Usually resident's salary is enuf to maintain a decent lifestyle. Unless u r too extravagant, u can make a good living on it and even save something.


doc_g
Aim Surgery

if d toc on wether to give usmle during or after bbs has been discussed could someone give me a hint where d are
oe some links or sumthn...


AshB


doc_g wrote:
if d toc on wether to give <a href="http://www.rxpgonline.com/forum5.html">USMLE</a>
during or after bbs has been discussed could someone give me a hint where d are
oe some links or sumthn...

Try this link..
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chinar wrote:
what is bbs

He meant MBBS.. icon_smile.gif


AshB


Re: <a href=
diiks wrote:
hi,
i've just done my mbbs from india. i want to pursue neurology. what would be the best course of action for me now?

If u ask me.. BEST is to take USMLE n take up residency in US in case u wanna practice abroad. If u r sure on practisinig in India.. MD(medi) followed by DM neuro here.

diiks wrote:
is it possible to go for further studies in the US after doing MD Medicine here in india?

Yes

diiks wrote:
do institutes there accept our qualification or do we have to compulsorily do residency there to qualify for a fellowship?

Yes.. u dnt need to do residency to get a fellowship but mind u fellowships r not easier to come by.

Read this forum's hot topics in details for more discussion on related queries.


doctarz


i have just entered pre final.. i am planning to start step 1 preparations.. when can i give step 1 if i start preparation now..
please help..


arundhutik
Aim USMLE Step 1

hi, u ve really very helpful. i am going to start preparations for step 1. how many months should i take to prepare?and how many months prior to it should i apply? what is this first aid book? is it a must?thanks


AshB


doctarz wrote:
i have just entered pre final.. i am planning to start step 1 preparations.. when can i give step 1 if i start preparation now..
please help..

I can't comment on ur situation cos i've not come across many in similar one. But since u wud be studying for ur MBBS too, i guess it might take u about a 7-9 months to prepare.

Find out more from people who've taken step1 at ur stage.


AshB


arundhutik wrote:
hi, u ve really very helpful. i am going to start preparations for step 1. how many months should i take to prepare?and how many months prior to it should i apply? what is this first aid book? is it a must?thanks

First Aid (FA) is a collection of super high yield material for MLE. MUST READ.
5-7 months is d commonly suggested period for step1. Apply 4-5 months in advance.
Read
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for more details.


jaissy


can a family of a wife , husband and a 4 yrs child survive in US with only one resident's salary with no other source of income .


vandanakirankumar8743
Aim DM Nephrology

how many times can we write a step?
how many times can we write a step.
is there a limitationto it .
is it true that we should attempt once in every 7 years.
pls answer me


usmle1doc
Aim USMLE Step 1

if you pass the exam you cant write the step for next 7 years.....
but its advisable to pass it in 1st attempt than failing and then scoring 90..


ANSHUL_DR
Aim GRE

hey this thread is really very useful.only one thing i have not found is-how to get observerships and fellowships in US sitting out here in india.i am just an mbbs so can i get one.and do we need to give the mle for these.if there's a thread which has this thng discused plz do let me know.thnx


tanpgi


ASH B USMLE DOC PLZ HELP...I'M DOING MY PG AND CURRENTLY IN MY 3rd YEAR, which would get over by june 2007.i wanted to know whether its a good idea to give STEP 2 CS before other steps during my PG. coz i've my university exams in may 2007 and cant give enough time for the other steps. after my PG tenure from june 2007 i'll will be left with very little time to study for all the steps and get their results in time for 2008 match.also the chances of getting a visa post PG would be less(? i suppose).ARE THE CHANCES OF VISA REJECTION HIGH IF U APPLY FOR STEP 2 CS WITHOUT HAVING GIVEN THE OTHER STEPS? [THE OTHER SIDE IS THAT IF I APPLY NOW I WOULD GET A LETTER FROM MY DEAN THAT I'M ATTACHED TO THIS HOSPITAL UNDER A BOND TILL JUNE 2007 WHEN I GO FOR THE INTERVIEW]which one would be a better option amongst these 2.pls help


satansfav


Hey somebody pls help me out- what r chances of getting a residency if one is 7-8 yrs post Mbbs with experience at rmo level provided the scores are good (90+)


doc_kalsi
Aim USMLE Step 1

hi all
plz can u tell me whether IWA is the only way to apply now?
i mean is there anything that the paper application does not exist anymore?
plz help


jiteshlk


Frendz...I have I Doubt What advantage I am going to get if prepare for USMLE after my postgraduation????????Do I get some advantange over there in job or exam or Visa? pls Any1 Who have even a little info will help....Jitesh


AshB


ANSHUL_DR wrote:
hey this thread is really very useful.only one thing i have not found is-how to get observerships and fellowships in US sitting out here in india.i am just an mbbs so can i get one.and do we need to give the mle for these.if there's a thread which has this thng discused plz do let me know.thnx

We need MLE or not depends on d hospital offering observership n hence varies.

See this Discussion on various possibilities pertaining to USCE:
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AshB


tanpgi wrote:
ASH B <a href="http://www.rxpgonline.com/forum5.html">USMLE</a>
DOC PLZ HELP...I'M DOING MY PG AND CURRENTLY IN MY 3rd YEAR, which would get over by june 2007.i wanted to know whether its a good idea to give STEP 2 CS before other steps during my PG. coz i've my university exams in may 2007 and cant give enough time for the other steps. after my PG tenure from june 2007 i'll will be left with very little time to study for all the steps and get their results in time for 2008 match.also the chances of getting a visa post PG would be less(? i suppose).ARE THE CHANCES OF VISA REJECTION HIGH IF U APPLY FOR STEP 2 CS WITHOUT HAVING GIVEN THE OTHER STEPS? [THE OTHER SIDE IS THAT IF I APPLY NOW I WOULD GET A LETTER FROM MY DEAN THAT I'M ATTACHED TO THIS HOSPITAL UNDER A BOND TILL JUNE 2007 WHEN I GO FOR THE INTERVIEW]which one would be a better option amongst these 2.pls help

Yes there r always high chance of visa rejection if we directly apply for Step 2 CS. If u can take at least 1 step b4 applying for CS visa, it myt help quite a lot.

I think chances of getting a Visa post-PG isn't any different from that for fresh graduates.

Any sort of bond will help to prove ur non-immigrant intentions.


AshB


jaissy wrote:
can a family of a wife , husband and a 4 yrs child survive in US with only one resident's salary with no other source of income .

Yes they can unless they spend lavishly. It also depends on the place of ur residence. Certain cities like NY r costlier than average.


AshB


satansfav wrote:
Hey somebody pls help me out- what r chances of getting a residency if one is 7-8 yrs post Mbbs with experience at rmo level provided the scores are good (90+)

I feel, in ur situation getting a residency if definitely tougher. U gotta get as many factors right as u can. U can do d following to increase ur chances:
1. scores in high 90s
2. Some research publications
3. get some decent USCE
4. Use some contacts (will always work icon_smile.gif)
But still, it'll be tougher given d increasing competition for MLE.


AshB


doc_kalsi wrote:
hi all
plz can u tell me whether IWA is the only way to apply now?
i mean is there anything that the paper application does not exist anymore?
plz help

I think practically yes. Though u can specifically request ECFMG for a paper application. But y wud some1 take so much pain when IWA is so simple!


ANSHUL_DR
Aim GRE

thanx ashB for helping me out seems there's not much info about USCE but wil search for more.one more query i am planing for 2008 match and have jst startd my preparation for step 1 i knw i am late as already gave gre(as previously thought to take tht route) and i am doing my internship(and its realy heavy out here)so it wont be posible for me to take step1 befre april and then step2 around august and then applications in sept(i thnk step2 cs is not req for appl right) then in oct cs does this plan sounds ok if anythng is not in place plz say.thnx


doc_kalsi
Aim USMLE Step 1

thanks ashB
plz can ya tell me
wat is to b send now
i hav applied online
i mean dean's letter?
or anything like dat?
plz


AshB


doc_kalsi wrote:
thanks ashB
plz can ya tell me
wat is to b send now
i hav applied online
i mean dean's letter?
or anything like dat?
plz

If u r a graduate:
Form 186, 187, 344, 345
Copy of ur Degree (NOT povisional one)
One passport photo
A copy of medical transcripts (Not essential but i sent it cos i had it with me)

If u r an UG/intern:
Form 183, 187, 344, 345
Dean's letter stating the date when u'll receive ur degree
One passport photo

Please refer the thread 'steps for applying for step1" also for more info. N do read d information booklet carefully cos any of us maybe wrong or make a mistake.


AshB


ANSHUL_DR wrote:
so it wont be posible for me to take step1 befre april and then step2 around august and then applications in sept(i thnk step2 cs is not req for appl right) then in oct cs does this plan sounds ok if anythng is not in place plz say.thnx

Well, we can't do anything about the intern thing. But it'd be better if u wud try to complete step 2CS earlier to get more interview calls. Try to set the targets a bit earlier, say squeeze out a few weeks. U can always postpone a bit in case u find ur preps wanting.

Good luck! icon_smile.gif


gunsnroses
Aim PLAB Part 2

the most complicated query of all!!
Hi AshB !!!!
Kudos fr the great wrk u doing on this site.....Almighty will reward yu with the best!! God Bless!!!
Anyway my query is different frm the rest of the pack.... well my name is Md. Sajid Rizwan in my medical degree ( the diploma) and the rest of all my certificates till date.But in my PASSPORT the name is mentioned as Mohammad Sajid Rizwan.......
I am confused about what name to use as my real name in the ECFMG.....
I have been told by my freinds that the orange card mentions we need a passport as a proof of identification.
though its just a matter of abbreviation and full form of the name.... its a matter of sleepless nights fr me......
its really a GRAVE matter fr me........ and i dont want to goof this up.....
please help ASH......


AshB


Re: the most complicated query of all!!
gunsnroses wrote:
Hi AshB !!!!
Kudos fr the great wrk u doing on this site.....Almighty will reward yu with the best!! God Bless!!!
Anyway my query is different frm the rest of the pack.... well my name is Md. Sajid Rizwan in my medical degree ( the diploma) and the rest of all my certificates till date.But in my PASSPORT the name is mentioned as Mohammad Sajid Rizwan.......
I am confused about what name to use as my real name in the ECFMG.....
I have been told by my freinds that the orange card mentions we need a passport as a proof of identification.
though its just a matter of abbreviation and full form of the name.... its a matter of sleepless nights fr me......
its really a GRAVE matter fr me........ and i dont want to goof this up.....
please help ASH......

Thanks a ton for ur blessings. I'd like to say 2 things:
1. Always prefer the name that is on ur medical diploma
2. BEST thing is to call up ECFMG helpline and state ur problem. They'll tell u d most correct course of action. And then do exactly as they say.

U can find their numbers on ECFMG website.

Hope it helps.


arundhutik
Aim USMLE Step 1

can u please let me know if after one gets the id no. from ecfmg any other verification requires to be done or after we apply for the exam they verify our degrees?and how many mnths prior to exam should one apply and are exams held all round the year?thanks a lot. this thread is really very helpful.

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